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Old 07-21-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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Illustrating how America's transformation from an agrarian, frontier society to a modern, industrialized society has produced a society of more rules. Crime has trended downward as law enforcement and legislation related to crime was increased due to urbanization.
So millions of people each and every year are not a victim of violent crimes because 1000 laws written in 1000 different ways have just recently made it a crime? Is that what you're saying?

 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Maybe one reasonable liberal can explain to me -- why are liberals afraid of people's right to bear arms? Would be nice if the response isn't "for the sake of people."
They are emotionalist..They dont give a damn about facts.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Indeed. Ending the War on Drugs would be a great way to reduce crime and be a positive step for our neighbors south of the border to become more stable and productive countries.
So we should allow the sale of crack and meth as a way to reduce crime and become a more stable and productive country?
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Studies have been done, in the U.S. today it would take longer than the average lifespan of a human to read every law and statute that applies to them. And that is if they were reading every waking second.

In other words, anyone who claims to know all the laws is a liar.
Absolutely and it should be noted that the Federal Register is 175,000+ pages and then you have state laws, county laws along with city laws/school district laws/etc.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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So we should allow the sale of crack and meth as a way to reduce crime and become a more stable and productive country?
Yes.

People have a right to ingest stupid chemicals and eff up their lives, it is none of our business. We should also get rid of welfare so junkies can't get a free ride on societies backs...

Also, it would be easier for addicts to get help, and with the drugs being cheaper they could conceivably hold down jobs to support their habits. I know plenty of alcoholics that do, and alcohol is scientifically the "hardest" drug.

Also, the drugs would become safer if they weren't being sold on the black market.


Again, every individual has the right to choose what they ingest into their body... they own it. Would you do crack and meth tomorrow if they were legalized?
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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Absolutely and it should be noted that the Federal Register is 175,000+ pages and then you have state laws, county laws along with city laws/school district laws/etc.
Well to be fair to dv1033 , he believes that when the 2nd Amendment was founded, there was only 1 law against murder, but over the years, the government has come up with dozens of other laws against murder hence making us a safer nation by doing so... You know because just one law wasn't good enough.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:42 PM
 
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Yes.

People have a right to ingest stupid chemicals and eff up their lives, it is none of our business. We should also get rid of welfare so junkies can't get a free ride on societies backs...

Also, it would be easier for addicts to get help, and with the drugs being cheaper they could conceivably hold down jobs to support their habits. I know plenty of alcoholics that do, and alcohol is scientifically the "hardest" drug.

Also, the drugs would become safer if they weren't being sold on the black market.


Again, every individual has the right to choose what they ingest into their body... they own it. Would you do crack and meth tomorrow if they were legalized?
What crack head or meth addict do you know of that can keep a job? Hard drugs breed more crime and violence. They aren't just hurting themselves, but they will become a strain on everyone else around them from the children that can't take care of, to the money they'll steal to support their habit, to the money tax payers will have to shell out for them.

I'm for the legalization of MJ and other soft drugs, but hard drugs, no...
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Ubique
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They are emotionalist..
Disagree. I think... I'll just bite my tongue.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Yes.

People have a right to ingest stupid chemicals and eff up their lives, it is none of our business. We should also get rid of welfare so junkies can't get a free ride on societies backs...

Also, it would be easier for addicts to get help, and with the drugs being cheaper they could conceivably hold down jobs to support their habits. I know plenty of alcoholics that do, and alcohol is scientifically the "hardest" drug.

Also, the drugs would become safer if they weren't being sold on the black market.


Again, every individual has the right to choose what they ingest into their body... they own it. Would you do crack and meth tomorrow if they were legalized?
Valid questions..
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Ubique
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When you make too many laws, the logical outcome is their selective application. It's a nice way of saying lawless and tyrannical. Per the dictionary...
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