Patriot arrested for exercising his 1st & 2nd Amendment rights (illegal, controversial)
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I don't care who it is hoarding ammo, it's not "fine." I live amongst people where most own guns. It is not normal for those gun owners to stockpile ammo. The people who hoard ammo are, almost by definition, imbalanced nutcases. The kind you see posting everyday on this forum about guns. As I said, there are plenty of others with fixations on single things. The difference is they're fixated on NASCAR, My Little Pony, Star Trek or Corvettes. The demographic who is fixated on guns is unique. They are usually paranoid individuals who live in perpetual fear. If you doubt me, ask them. Ask them who they fear. What you will find is that they fear nearly everyone. That's one of the reasons they hoard guns and ammo. They're afraid of everyone. Everyone is coming to get them and their guns. Why in the world any sane individual would not worry about anyone hoarding ammo is beyond me.
BTW, while I'm rapping here, we have a segment of the population that has no problem with cops frisking a certain demographic for no reason, but if we were to propose cops keeping special tabs on these paranoid headcases hoarding ammo, they would be, pardon the pun, up in arms.
A) You need ammo or a gun is useless.
B) There was already one ammo shortage.
C) Having a supply of ammo does not make one "paranoid". It makes them "prepared". That's like saying that storing food for emergency is "paranoid", or saving money is "paranoid".
Lefties have a mental block in the fact that they think that the gubmint will always be right there to help you.
I guess that marginalizing people who "hoard" ammo makes lefties feel good.
C) Having a supply of ammo does not make one "paranoid". It makes them "prepared". That's like saying that storing food for emergency is "paranoid", or saving money is "paranoid".
Lefties have a mental block in the fact that they think that the gubmint will always be right there to help you.
I guess that marginalizing people who "hoard" ammo makes lefties feel good.
I'm not buyiing the ammunition shortage. I think this is similar to when refineries say they have to cut back on production some, when they really don't.
I don't care who it is hoarding ammo, it's not "fine." I live amongst people where most own guns. It is not normal for those gun owners to stockpile ammo. The people who hoard ammo are, almost by definition, imbalanced nutcases. The kind you see posting everyday on this forum about guns. As I said, there are plenty of others with fixations on single things. The difference is they're fixated on NASCAR, My Little Pony, Star Trek or Corvettes. The demographic who is fixated on guns is unique. They are usually paranoid individuals who live in perpetual fear. If you doubt me, ask them. Ask them who they fear. What you will find is that they fear nearly everyone. That's one of the reasons they hoard guns and ammo. They're afraid of everyone. Everyone is coming to get them and their guns. Why in the world any sane individual would not worry about anyone hoarding ammo is beyond me.
BTW, while I'm rapping here, we have a segment of the population that has no problem with cops frisking a certain demographic for no reason, but if we were to propose cops keeping special tabs on these paranoid headcases hoarding ammo, they would be, pardon the pun, up in arms.
At no point in my post did I mention hoarding ammunition, and neither did bUU. The topic was purchasing ammo and scopes, and bUU implied that doing so was wrong in some way.
Out of curiosity, however, how much ammunition does one have to purchase in order to be considered "hoarding"? Considering that I know many people who regularly purchase ammunition in bulk because it tends to be less costly that way and keep well over 5000 rounds in their gun cabinet so that they don't have to run to the local gun shop and hope that ammunition is in stock when they want to go to the range, this seems to be an open-ended argument which can only be settled by issuing an arbitrary number which has no bearing on reality.
Contrary to your statement, the demographic that is fixated on guns tends to be the demographic that attributes evil attributes to inanimate objects. I know a multitude of hobbyists who enjoy shooting and collecting firearms, and I know many people including myself who indulge in our right to concealed carry. Fear isn't a factor except in a couple of rare exceptions, and those exceptions are due to life experiences which justify that fear. The true fear rests in the minds of those who believe that simply owning a firearm somehow makes one a danger to society.
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979
I'm not buyiing the ammunition shortage. I think this is similar to when refineries say they have to cut back on production some, when they really don't.
You apparently haven't purchased ammunition in the last year or so. Most places that sell ammunition had empty shelves until about a month ago, and some still do. My local Walmart, for example, hasn't had 9mm or .223 ammunition on in stock since before last Christmas. Local gun shops also ran extremely low on stock for several months and were limiting the number of boxes you could purchase. There most definitely has been an ammunition shortage on the retail level, whether the manufacturers and distributors had a shortage or not. Considering that there is quite a bit of profit in ammunition, it doesn't make much fiscal sense for the manufacturers or distributors to be holding onto their stock and losing massive amounts of sales.
Is a written death threat against the president a protected right?
Threatening anybody personally, that you are going to harm them, is an act of war against that individual.
You as an individual can act upon that threat or blow it off as hot air.
Just like a bully telling you, they are going to kick your ass.
I don't care who it is hoarding ammo, it's not "fine." I live amongst people where most own guns. It is not normal for those gun owners to stockpile ammo. The people who hoard ammo are, almost by definition, imbalanced nutcases. The kind you see posting everyday on this forum about guns.
We buy in bulk. No different than going to Costco and buying a case of toilet paper. It's cheaper that way. It also saves on cardboard packaging so we are helping the environment.
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Originally Posted by cometclear
As I said, there are plenty of others with fixations on single things. The difference is they're fixated on NASCAR, My Little Pony, Star Trek or Corvettes. The demographic who is fixated on guns is unique. They are usually paranoid individuals who live in perpetual fear. If you doubt me, ask them. Ask them who they fear. What you will find is that they fear nearly everyone. That's one of the reasons they hoard guns and ammo. They're afraid of everyone. Everyone is coming to get them and their guns. Why in the world any sane individual would not worry about anyone hoarding ammo is beyond me.
Nice way to stereotype us and place us all in one little box. If you met me on the street, you wouldn't know I was interested in guns. I also like home theater and audio equipment. I have 10 times the posts at Home Theater Forum and AVS. Same name if you want to check.
I don't fear anything. Fear is a wasted emotion. Just because you can't understand being prepared and personal safety, don't label us.
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Originally Posted by cometclear
BTW, while I'm rapping here, we have a segment of the population that has no problem with cops frisking a certain demographic for no reason, but if we were to propose cops keeping special tabs on these paranoid headcases hoarding ammo, they would be, pardon the pun, up in arms.
I have a problem with the police doing stop and frisk on anyone. Whether it is a group of blacks on the corner in Balitmore, a group of white guys with gold chains in front of a meat store in Jersey, a group of tan guys in middle eastern attire standing outside the White House or a group of white guys in Mississippi wearing hoods. The Constitution is clear in that you either need a warrant or probable cause. (every example used came from a TV show or movie)
I'm not buyiing the ammunition shortage. I think this is similar to when refineries say they have to cut back on production some, when they really don't.
Have you been to buy ammo recently? There is NONE. This past weekend, I saw some 1,000 round Federal bulk packs of .223 at Wal-Mart for the first time in almost 2 years.
At some gun forums, there are guys that are truck drivers who pick up regularly from the manufacturers and they are saying production is up. The Remington plant just outside of Little Rock is working 24x7 and the parking lot shows it. The market it there and it would be bad business for a manufacturer to not serve it.
A Pennsylvania patriot was arrested for exercising his 1st & 2nd Amendment rights. Damned Obama!
A Scranton man has been arrested for sending this threat to the White House: "President Obama is the Anti-Christ. As a result of breaking the constitution you will stand down or be shot dead. This will be sent to militias throughout the country and the media. Nick Savino." A search of his residence found two licensed weapons, one of which was a loaded AR-15, 11,000 rounds of ammunition, a long-range scope and training manuals on long-range shooting.
First, having a loaded gun in the house is not illegal (or at least not in most places). There's nothing more useless than an unloaded gun.
Why pick an AR for long range shooting. Ballistically, the standard carbine isn't very good past 200 yards. If the AR was a rifle model and he was shooting maybe 75 grain bullets then it can reach out and touch 400 yards. But that's still not long range shooting. A Remington 700 in 300 Mag or even an AR-10 would have been much better choices.
Before anyone takes it that I agree with his threats, I don't. I'm just criticizing his selection of equipment.
First, having a loaded gun in the house is not illegal (or at least not in most places). There's nothing more useless than an unloaded gun.
Why pick an AR for long range shooting. Ballistically, the standard carbine isn't very good past 200 yards. If the AR was a rifle model and he was shooting maybe 75 grain bullets then it can reach out and touch 400 yards. But that's still not long range shooting. A Remington 700 in 300 Mag or even an AR-10 would have been much better choices.
Before anyone takes it that I agree with his threats, I don't. I'm just criticizing his selection of equipment.
I had the same thought when I saw his "arsenal". People put a lot of faith in the AR-15 model, and it's great for certain situations, but accurate long-range shooting isn't really its best forte. Not to say it can't be accurate at long range, but it wouldn't be my first choice for reaching out and touching the target.
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