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Old 09-17-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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A History textbook in use at many high schools in Texas, deliberately misquotes the 2nd amendment to the U.S. Constitution, to try to give the impression that people only have the right to keep and bear arms when they are acting in a militia.

It's just another instance of anti-gun people trying to illegally restrict gun ownership.

It is increasingly clear (if it wasn't before) that eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. We must ALWAYS be on the lookout for things like this.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/09/...mendment-83536

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Old 09-17-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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High School History Book Misrepresenting the Bill of Rights

Duplicate thread. Again, its a history book, and they should go over the various versions of amendments and the constitution, as they are important parts of our founding and history.

Your suggestion would be not to teach kids that many founders didn't support a Senate, and it wasn't in the first draft of the constitution. Such assertions are stupid, and ignore lessons from history.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:36 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Of course, what the 2nd amendment really means is:

"Since an armed and capable populace is necessary for security and freedom, the right of ordinary people to own and carry guns and other such weapons cannot be taken away or restricted."

These people could have rephrased it that way, and actually gotten it right.

Why didn't they?
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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High School History Book Misrepresenting the Bill of Rights

Duplicate thread. Again, its a history book, and they should go over the various versions of amendments and the constitution, as they are important parts of our founding and history.

Your suggestion would be not to teach kids that many founders didn't support a Senate, and it wasn't in the first draft of the constitution. Such assertions are stupid, and ignore lessons from history.
Wow, how dishonest can you be?

Nothing about the statement on the 2nd amendment is true in the textbook.

It says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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Of course, what the 2nd amendment really means is:

"Since an armed and capable populace is necessary for security and freedom, the right of ordinary people to own and carry guns and other such weapons cannot be taken away or restricted."

These people could have rephrased it that way, and actually gotten it right.

Why didn't they?
Because everyone in the days of writing the Constitution knew what the militia was...

Every able bodied person who owned arms.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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High School History Book Misrepresenting the Bill of Rights

Duplicate thread. Again, its a history book, and they should go over the various versions of amendments and the constitution, as they are important parts of our founding and history.

Your suggestion would be not to teach kids that many founders didn't support a Senate, and it wasn't in the first draft of the constitution. Such assertions are stupid, and ignore lessons from history.
Notice the other amendments haven't been changed.
Students should not be taught someone's interpretation of the Bill of Rights.
That should be left for later discussion.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Because everyone in the days of writing the Constitution knew what the militia was...

Every able bodied person who owned arms.
My point exactly.

"An armed and capable populace" is the correct modern translation of "a well-regulated militia".
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Notice the other amendments haven't been changed.
Students should not be taught someone's interpretation of the Bill of Rights.
That should be left for later discussion.
The second amendment was hotly debated when Madison was writing the first 10 amendments.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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Of course, what the 2nd amendment really means is:
Here, I'll fix this for you.

"Since a well regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed by the federal government"

Yup, solid cold fact.

The Second Amendment, like all other amendments in the Bill of Rights, limited the actions of the federal government.

In 1789, state governments were allowed to restrict gun rights within their own borders.

Dig a little further into history and you'll find that the original rationale for the 2nd Amendment was to protect the States from the federal military forces and not to grant unlimited rights to the individual.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So that "interpretation" is saying only the National Guard can bear arms.
And this is in Texas no less.
Imagine what the books in liberal states are saying ?
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