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Old 09-18-2013, 06:37 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Of course you would for you don't really know anything do you
Thank you for taking the time to share your vast knowledge so completely.

 
Old 09-18-2013, 06:48 PM
 
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I chuckle every time I hear a gun nut say that their gun zealotry is "protecting their freedom" when, in fact, it is doing exactly the opposite. For there is no more effective way to insure a growing police state than a no-compromise pro-gun stance. And it is happening as we speak. They think they are gliding down the highway when, in fact, they are slip-sliding away. Regrettably, so are we all.

This latest in the long chain of tragedies will once again crank security concerns up another notch, resulting in more suspicion, more checkpoints, more searches, more impediment to people being left alone to go about their business free of harassment and challenge.

Everyone can see where this is going....that is, everyone not blinded by the religion of their gun-centric upbringing. Gun nuts are gradually frittering away all other freedoms in trade for one. And anyone willing to trade freedom for guns deserves neither.
More mindless drivel.

Want more guns on the street?

Propose more gun control and watch sales soar.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 07:16 PM
 
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I chuckle every time I hear a gun nut say that their gun zealotry is "protecting their freedom" when, in fact, it is doing exactly the opposite. For there is no more effective way to insure a growing police state than a no-compromise pro-gun stance. And it is happening as we speak. They think they are gliding down the highway when, in fact, they are slip-sliding away. Regrettably, so are we all.

This latest in the long chain of tragedies will once again crank security concerns up another notch, resulting in more suspicion, more checkpoints, more searches, more impediment to people being left alone to go about their business free of harassment and challenge.

Everyone can see where this is going....that is, everyone not blinded by the religion of their gun-centric upbringing. Gun nuts are gradually frittering away all other freedoms in trade for one. And anyone willing to trade freedom for guns deserves neither.
Soon Americans will have lost most of their rights---security, privacy, mobility, equality, dissent---only gun rights will remain. An empty win.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 07:20 PM
 
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Soon Americans will have lost most of their rights---security, privacy, mobility, equality, dissent---only gun rights will remain. An empty win.
And your type will continue to applaud and justify the losses as we so often see here.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Soon Americans will have lost most of their rights---security, privacy, mobility, equality, dissent---only gun rights will remain. An empty win.
So you finally figured out what happens now that democrats are in control.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Originally Posted by CrownVic95 View Post
I chuckle every time I hear a gun nut say that their gun zealotry is "protecting their freedom" when, in fact, it is doing exactly the opposite. For there is no more effective way to insure a growing police state than a no-compromise pro-gun stance. And it is happening as we speak. They think they are gliding down the highway when, in fact, they are slip-sliding away. Regrettably, so are we all.

This latest in the long chain of tragedies will once again crank security concerns up another notch, resulting in more suspicion, more checkpoints, more searches, more impediment to people being left alone to go about their business free of harassment and challenge.

Everyone can see where this is going....that is, everyone not blinded by the religion of their gun-centric upbringing. Gun nuts are gradually frittering away all other freedoms in trade for one. And anyone willing to trade freedom for guns deserves neither.
Funny how a liberal it tell us how freedom is being threaten, have you been asleep at the wheel for the last 5 plus years?

it bad when GW did it, but ok when Zero does it.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by CrownVic95 View Post
I chuckle every time I hear a gun nut say that their gun zealotry is "protecting their freedom" when, in fact, it is doing exactly the opposite. For there is no more effective way to insure a growing police state than a no-compromise pro-gun stance. And it is happening as we speak. They think they are gliding down the highway when, in fact, they are slip-sliding away. Regrettably, so are we all.

This latest in the long chain of tragedies will once again crank security concerns up another notch, resulting in more suspicion, more checkpoints, more searches, more impediment to people being left alone to go about their business free of harassment and challenge.

Everyone can see where this is going....that is, everyone not blinded by the religion of their gun-centric upbringing. Gun nuts are gradually frittering away all other freedoms in trade for one. And anyone willing to trade freedom for guns deserves neither.
You are completely wrong to present the government as innocent angels if not for those darn gun nuts. Governments everywhere, at every point in history, have a natural slide toward tyranny. It is inevitable especially once the corporate powers merge with the state, which is fueling the police state. Not "gun nuts". This isn't anything new. The government aren't angelic philanthropic citizens doing whats best for the people. They are power hungry, money grabbing lunatics that will do anything to maintain power. The police state is a manifestation of big government, and the people maintaining the police state do so with justification so they can keep their jobs or government contracts. Anything is a crime if the government is paying your salary, and a lot of people will criminalize their innocent neighbor so they can keep their cushy jobs.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Anytime I hear a terrified anti gun nut say anything about guns I know it will be completely wrong and full of made up BS because they never know anything about the topic they didn't learn from Hollywood.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Default Lots of obvious and logical questions again. But, as usual, flanked by stupid ideas too...

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Originally Posted by CrownVic95 View Post
I chuckle every time I hear a gun nut say that their gun zealotry is "protecting their freedom" when, in fact, it is doing exactly the opposite. For there is no more effective way to insure a growing police state than a no-compromise pro-gun stance. And it is happening as we speak. They think they are gliding down the highway when, in fact, they are slip-sliding away. Regrettably, so are we all.

This latest in the long chain of tragedies will once again crank security concerns up another notch, resulting in more suspicion, more checkpoints, more searches, more impediment to people being left alone to go about their business free of harassment and challenge.

Everyone can see where this is going....that is, everyone not blinded by the religion of their gun-centric upbringing. Gun nuts are gradually frittering away all other freedoms in trade for one. And anyone willing to trade freedom for guns deserves neither.
You aren't much of a history buff are you, CV? We Americans, alone in the world now, have maintained our ability to defend against the oft-repeated suppressive tyranny of so many past and present governments except ours, Canada's & Britain's [well... so far...]. Otherwise, we have seen such tyranny from historic Germany, Italy, the various central Euro-countries, ME, the USSR, African regimes, and so on. Restrict their firearms by force and then move in.

You DO know that the number of such tragic gun-related incidents as the Naval Yard in WA are so infrequent as to be almost statistically void, yes? We have the usual shooter suspects, of course, realizing full-well that MOST ALL OF THESE events are generated by those [often teen males...] who have had a traumatic and psychotic break with reality [or their fragile social situations...] in a population of well over 330+ M people.

And yet... you think we can legislate aberrant human behavior by banning a particular type of firearm?

Or do you just wanna go git all them durned Evil™ guns? How's that going to work out, do you honestly think??

(Say.. WAIT NOW... uhhhhmmm... isn't it ALREADY ILLEGAL to shoot someone in cold blood? Yes or No, CV?

SO: will some other new omnibus law banning the specific weapon(s) used in a single situation be in any way even 0.1% effective? Yes or No, Crown Vic?

But hey: why not let's just blame the guns. Again. And again.

Also, NOTICE THAT the media had already pre-determined that this was, of course, an AR 15 type weapon, but hey: wait! Let's check it out, OK?

Oh. Sorry. It was a 12 ga shotgun. Gunna ban them next? Why not, huh?

What's with you automatic response gun-banning toadie-heads? THIS IS NOT about some new gun control laws, even if it will but some votes with the do-sumthin' socialistás. It's about the growing population of those who really need psychological help. Or those who lose their ability to think clearly.

But Wow: doing it your ultimate fascist way? What a wonderful society you'll end up creating! Shades of Orwell's "1984", except you'd like it that way!

Why do you want to ban all weapons, which also have such little effect on the facts?

The Answer?

You have your preferred and societally nouveau new-age world, with all behavior very suspect, and also deeply controlled by a massive array of laws.

Oh my! How very lovely!

No wonder us "gun nuts" prefer to keep our means of self-protection! Seems we'll be needing them, all of them. And probably sooner than later!

(Oh... I'm so paranoid, huh?)
 
Old 09-18-2013, 09:39 PM
 
Location: southern california
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how do u equate being unarmed with being free?
have u or a loved one ever been the victim of violent crime??
I have
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