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My point of view? I already said that my point of view is that I don't care. Mandated school prayer is one thing, "moments of silence" I'm ambiguous about-- I don't think they're illegal, I just think they're silly. What did you write to that other guy earlier, something about "you and fish are always trying to make me feel more extreme than I am," or something like that?
The answer is obvious: it's important to THEM. Just because something isn't important to you doesn't mean it can't be important to anyone.
I should clarify... I don't think that the people protesting are stupid, or have no good reason to protest, it's just that I don't understand what that reason is exactly, you know? The law itself seems like something that was a waste of time to make and causes wastes of time in class, but I don't see how it significantly impacts anyone, either positively or negatively. And this is coming from a very non-religious person who is completely against any sort of mandated school prayer. It's weird to be challenged from both sides as if to each I belong to "the other team" (you and Yeledaf)...
I should clarify... I don't think that the people protesting are stupid, or have no good reason to protest, it's just that I don't understand what it is exactly, you know? The law itself seems like something that was a waste of time to make and causes wastes of time in class, but I don't see how it significantly impacts anyone, either positively or negatively. And this is coming from a very non-religious person who is completely against any sort of mandated school prayer. It's weird to be challenged from both sides (you and Yeledaf)...
I'm not challenging you, fish.
I'm just having a little fun pointing out the absurdity of "banning silence."
Nobody would argue that "banning silence" wouldn't be absurd, but now that I think about it when I look back at what the judge in the court who ruled against the law he does make some good points. To me it would depend on how the individual schools make the dumb law happen -- are some of them telling kids to pray, or are they just telling them to "reflect silently" for a minute? If the lawmakers weren't intending to urge kids to pray, then why is "Student Prayer" part of the law's title? Were the creators more concerned with getting kids to "reflect silently" or with getting them to pray? I don't know, I guess it could be "abused."
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tinman, from other posts, it appears that you have strong christian beliefs. Therefore, it would seem, to you, that this is a non-issue.
It is a very big issue to many of us who are not christian and are well-acquainted with christian tactics and deception.
You assume incorrectly. I have no religious leanings. Quite the opposite. I detest religous dogma.
My point being there are huge problems in our schools today not the least of which is a failing education system. Rather than waste money on stupid or frivilous law suits perhaps the focus should be on repairing a broken education system.
The moment of silence harms no one. Use it for what ever you like. No one talks about prayer, or god ,or allah, or buddah, or shiva or any of the thousands of dieties.
I do know this, if these leftists have no other concerns or nothing more important than a moment of silence they need to get a life. Go out and take a fresh breath of reality.
As for any of my posts when have I ever thumped a bible?????
I don't know about "unconstitutional", but perhaps coconut-humping retarded.
There's at least one "moment of silence" already in almost every single school day. Be it in study hall or the time in the beginning and end of classes where teachers instruct students to work quietly. On the rare day where students aren't given any of those periods, they can use the 5 minutes of not listening to their algebra teacher to pray to God to let the fire alarm ring. But they're already doing that as well.
This type of legislation is an insult to everyone, especially when the Illinois legislature was busy ignoring things that matter to millions of Illinoisians, like solving the RTA budget crisis.
I don't know about "unconstitutional", but perhaps coconut-humping retarded.
There's at least one "moment of silence" already in almost every single school day. Be it in study hall or the time in the beginning and end of classes where teachers instruct students to work quietly. On the rare day where students aren't given any of those periods, they can use the 5 minutes of not listening to their algebra teacher to pray to God to let the fire alarm ring. But they're already doing that as well.
This type of legislation is an insult to everyone, especially when the Illinois legislature was busy ignoring things that matter to millions of Illinoisians, like solving the RTA budget crisis.
Exactly.... so many dire issues still unresolved and they focus on this. Tax payer dollars at work.
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