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Old 09-30-2013, 07:13 AM
 
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So, the gun is at fault, but not the parents, who gave a 12 year old a gun to scare coyotes, or the parent who hid the gun under the couch, or the parents who hid a gun in the closet...

Nope, it's all the guns fault...those guns jumped up and did everything...
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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Defend or protect by .... killing.

Nice try, though.
The purpose of the gun is to defend and protect oneself. If it requires killing, then so be it.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:19 AM
 
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So, the gun is at fault, but not the parents, who gave a 12 year old a gun to scare coyotes, or the parent who hid the gun under the couch, or the parents who hid a gun in the closet...

Nope, it's all the guns fault...those guns jumped up and did everything...
Exactly.

These anti-gun nuts will next go after everybody's cars because of all the innocent victims killed in ACCIDENTS.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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The purpose of the gun is to defend and protect oneself. If it requires killing, then so be it.
Thank you. As you acknowledge, it's a weapon for killing. It is the only one of its kind that we allow children to play with. And we tell ourselves that it's all in the name of "liberty."

We are a very sick country.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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Thank you. As you acknowledge, it's a weapon for killing. It is the only one of its kind that we allow children to play with. And we tell ourselves that it's all in the name of "liberty."

We are a very sick country.
A car is made to go from one place to the next....yet it still kills....
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:25 AM
 
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So, the gun is at fault, but not the parents, who gave a 12 year old a gun to scare coyotes, or the parent who hid the gun under the couch, or the parents who hid a gun in the closet...

Nope, it's all the guns fault...those guns jumped up and did everything...
Clearly, it is the parents' fault (or whoever else leaves a gun, especially a loaded one, accessible to children). The question is, when are we going to start taking this problem more seriously? What is a reasonable punishment for a parent who leaves a gun accessible to a child?

The article mentions several preventative measures, such as safe storage and ID lock guns, but the NRA is firmly against them all.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:26 AM
 
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A car is made to go from one place to the next....yet it still kills....
This thread is about gun deaths, not vehicular ones. Try to stay on topic please.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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Exactly.

These anti-gun nuts will next go after everybody's cars because of all the innocent victims killed in ACCIDENTS.
Cars are intended for killing?
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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So, the gun is at fault, but not the parents, who gave a 12 year old a gun to scare coyotes, or the parent who hid the gun under the couch, or the parents who hid a gun in the closet...

Nope, it's all the guns fault...those guns jumped up and did everything...
And they never taught the kids about gun safety.

As a very young kid, I was told to never touch a gun without an adult around. But that didn't matter. I had my own cap guns. As I got older (elementary school age), I was taught proper gun safety and shown just how destructive one could be. By the time I was in 7th and 8th grade, I was hunting by myself or with friends of the same age. This was just rabbit and squirrel hunting with a .22 or a shotgun.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Thank you. As you acknowledge, it's a weapon for killing. It is the only one of its kind that we allow children to play with. And we tell ourselves that it's all in the name of "liberty."

We are a very sick country.
"...it's a weapon for killing..."
So is a bow and arrow. So is a sword. So is a knife. So is a golf club. So is a hammer(any kind of hammer).
ALL of the above (and more) have been defined IN THE COURTS as "deadly weapons" when used to assault another person.
I find it very strange that a person would pick one inanimate object and demonize it, when there are so many others that cause a lot of damage! Yet, that same person would defend a "sport" that causes injuries and deaths to children and adults alike, and is strategically just like warfare!
Yes, we ARE a very sick country, and not just because many of us own and use firearms!
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