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Old 10-06-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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You sir are a victim of GOP talking points that are meaningless and spoon fed to their minions.
I note you didnt answer the question...
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"We have serious and growing concerns about the process and composition of any potential CR… At a time of extreme spending and political fatigue, it is simply unacceptable to use a must-pass CR as a legislative vehicle for more wasteful federal spending or completing an array of unfinished political business before the election."

Signed: The committee Republicans in 2010.

FLASHBACK: In 2010, House Republicans Demanded ‘Clean’ Funding Bill
Flahsback, Obama, raising the debt ceiling is a sign of Presidential failure..

 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default I thought the people blamed the GOP for the shut down?

Well, not ALL of the people.

Just us rational folks.
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Yes, and you dont think Democrats have had similar conversations on what to do next? Are you that nieve or are Democrats that incompetent?
Naive and at least they are competent enough not to demonstrate the fact that they are making decision based on 'poll testing'. That was one my favorites. Jesus. Does Paul not know when he is speaking to one and when he is speaking to all?

Idiot.
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Naive and at least they are competent enough not to demonstrate the fact that they are making decision based on 'poll testing'. That was one my favorites. Jesus. Does Paul not know when he is speaking to one and when he is speaking to all?

Idiot.
Democrats havent stopped talking about how their "winning" at the polls over the shut down..
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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The media is getting increasingly desperate in their rhetoric about how "everybody blames the GOP". It's a stuck record. Very boring, very predictable. And the exceptionally low IQs listen with jaws hanging open, then rush to forums to repeat what they just heard, complete with links, graphs, and charts.

Like apes in a zoo. Quite amusing.
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Democrats havent stopped talking about how their "winning" at the polls over the shut down..
You must be confused. Michelle Bachmann is a member of the conservative party and according to HER, the conservatives have NEVER BEEN HAPPIER since they were able to shut down the government.
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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You must be confused. Michelle Bachmann is a member of the conservative party and according to HER, the conservatives have NEVER BEEN HAPPIER since they were able to shut down the government.
Stop being dumb.. Polls non stop show that people dont want the government shut down over Obamacare and that would blame the GOP..
Poll Obamacare Defunding Shutdown Fight - Business Insider

Am I happy.. absolutely.. any money saved and not needed to be put on the backs of our children, makes me thrilled.. The main question I have is why Democrats hate our children and the poor so much, that they dont mind leaving them tens of trillions of dollars in debt..
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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"So to answer your question more directly, no negoations were allowed because the House Republicans knew they wouldn't be able to get everything they wanted. So therefore, no one gets anything. It's the Tea Party motto."

So, where was obama during this period? Did he make any effort to exercise LEADERSHIP, and try to get the parties together to NEGOTIATE and come to a COMPROMISE agreement?
Does he even know what COMPROMISE means?
It was the president's fault that the House Republicans refused to negotiate?
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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Obama hasn't submitted a real budget in years? Really?

2013 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- The 2013 United States federal budget is the budget to fund government operations for the fiscal year 2013, which is October 2012–September 2013. The original spending request was issued by President Barack Obama in February 2012.

2012 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- The 2012 United States federal budget was the budget to fund government operations for the fiscal year 2012, which was October 2011–September 2012. The original spending request was issued by President Barack Obama in February 2011.

2011 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- The 2011 United States federal budget is the United States federal budget to fund government operations for the fiscal year 2011, which is October 2010 – September 2011.

2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- The United States Federal Budget for Fiscal Year 2010, titled A New Era of Responsibility: Renewing America's Promise,[2] is a spending request by President Barack Obama to fund government operations for October 2009–September 2010.
You spent a lot of time looking up a posting all the links to the "real" Budget that Obama presents every year. YEP, he "presents" the Budget (in 2013 it was 2 months late and never even brought to a vote) - it's in the Constitution that the President is required to "present" a Budget. I guess most people either have forgotten how these "Budgets" fared in the Senate & House or more likely - they never paid any attention at all, just as they won't bother to check on your links.

I will just give the example of how the 2013 Obama Budget fared (but the others were exactly the same) except for the 2014 Budget which you did not post ..... they didn't even bother to bring it to a vote. From your Wiki link on the 2013 Budget, which was for Fiscal year 2012-2013 and is in effect right now based on the CR to the Budget Control Act of 2011.

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On May 16, 2012, the United States Senate voted on a 52-page budget amendment billed as a summary of the nearly 2,000 pages in the Obama administration's 2013 budget proposal. The amendment was defeated by a unanimous 99–0 vote, which paralleled the House of Representatives having voted a similar rejection in March by a count of 414–0. Those defeats of the amendments marked the second year in a row such summary bills met unanimous opposition.[10] In explaining their votes against, Congressional Democrats disputed whether the Republican summary accurately represented the Obama budget proposal; by contrast, Congressional Republicans claimed that their amendment included ample data taken directly from said budget.
Does everyone understand this??? The entire Senate and the entire House unanimously rejected the Obama Budget. They do exactly the same thing on the years they even bother to vote on it.
 
Old 10-06-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: texas
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Yes, the Republicans sent four resolutions funding the government to the Democrats in the Senate, and all four times the Democrats rejected them. So naturally, it's the Republicans' fault that the government shut down.

That's liberal brain dead reasoning for you.
...and lets not forget voted 40+ times to repeal ACA and failed. 40 times. Talk about unable to read the writing on the wall.

It doesn't matter if the GOP sends 36 more resolutions to the senate...One day they will have to face reality.

They just will.
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