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I've been either a conservative or a libertarian leaning conservative my entire life.....but I'm leaving the party because it has gone off the deep end. Since i'm a huge fan of lists I've decided to expound upon why I belive the party is a shell of it's former self.
1). They're irrational. Obamacare is the law. Throwing a temper tantrum and shutting down the government (and yes, basically everyone blames the GOP) is a terrible idea. Just suck it up...meet with the Democrats...agree to fund the law...fund the government...move on.
2). Using political theatre for these debt ceiling talks every few months is a joke and irresponsible.
3). The religious wing of the party is absurdly annoying.
4). Reaganomics is a joke.
5). The deficit isn't THAT big of a deal right now...All CBO estimates show that our debts/deficits are sustainable.
6). The military really doesn't need to be this large.
7). It's blind aversion to scienfitic consensus.
8). Gay marriage is GOING to be the law of the land one day in the very near future. Get over it. If you aren't gay...don't marry someone of the same sex.
9). They're wildly hypocritical. The party of fiscal restraint....really? See GWB budget 2001-2008.
10). They're war mongerers when their guy is in office...peacenics when the other guy is.
Other reasons exist but these are the primary ones that are leading to me taking off my bumper stickers and withdrawing my name from the GOP call lists. Enjoy your journey into mediocrity.
Every point you make only states that you never were what you claim to be. I have no idea why people think posting stuff like this makes any sort of valid point.
It's not believable. You have some valid positions, argue those positions, don't demean them with posts like this.
pknopp, why do you find this demeaning? Why you do think that someone who raises these points 'was never what they claimed to be?' Plenty of us are fiscal conservatives who believe in small government. We ought to be able to be Republicans, but we certainly can't with this iteration of the party.
I have no idea why people think posting stuff like this makes any sort of valid point.
It's probably not intended to make a point, but rather to serve notice. I left the GOP myself in 2003 after over 20 years of sticking with the GOP through thick and thin. I'm still in regular contact with friends I made while volunteering in the GOP. Some of them have left, too.
And I'm not telling you that to 'make a point.'
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It's not believable.
To you. Shrug.
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Originally Posted by pknopp
You have some valid positions, argue those positions, don't demean them with posts like this.
Yes, the Party is your friend. Never question established conservative orthodoxy.
It's literally been decades since Republicans have passed any bills/laws that have actually made a difference in ordinary Americans lives. I'm not surprised that you are ditching them.
I've been either a conservative or a libertarian leaning conservative my entire life.....but I'm leaving the party because it has gone off the deep end. Since i'm a huge fan of lists I've decided to expound upon why I belive the party is a shell of it's former self.
1). They're irrational. Obamacare is the law. Throwing a temper tantrum and shutting down the government (and yes, basically everyone blames the GOP) is a terrible idea. Just suck it up...meet with the Democrats...agree to fund the law...fund the government...move on.
2). Using political theatre for these debt ceiling talks every few months is a joke and irresponsible.
3). The religious wing of the party is absurdly annoying.
4). Reaganomics is a joke.
5). The deficit isn't THAT big of a deal right now...All CBO estimates show that our debts/deficits are sustainable.
6). The military really doesn't need to be this large.
7). It's blind aversion to scienfitic consensus.
8). Gay marriage is GOING to be the law of the land one day in the very near future. Get over it. If you aren't gay...don't marry someone of the same sex.
9). They're wildly hypocritical. The party of fiscal restraint....really? See GWB budget 2001-2008.
10). They're war mongerers when their guy is in office...peacenics when the other guy is.
Other reasons exist but these are the primary ones that are leading to me taking off my bumper stickers and withdrawing my name from the GOP call lists. Enjoy your journey into mediocrity.
I've always been an independent, but over the years I've vote for more Republicans than Democrats. For many of the reasons you cite, I'll probably vote straight ticket Democratic from here forward.
It's literally been decades since Republicans have passed any bills/laws that have actually made a difference in ordinary Americans lives. I'm not surprised that you are ditching them.
Well, to be fair, there were those enormous tax rebates we all got during the W administration. Those $150 checks made a huge difference in my life! For about a day.
Every point you make only states that you never were what you claim to be. I have no idea why people think posting stuff like this makes any sort of valid point.
It's not believable. You have some valid positions, argue those positions, don't demean them with posts like this.
Wow, took only one post before one of their fellow conservatives threw the OP under the Bus, happens everytime a real conservative points out the lunacy so common in the GOP these days.
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