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It's an example of why SOME of the founding fathers' thinking could be viewed as slightly outdated today.
Yes, just look at the Bill of Rights these days....
It is outdated, that an amendment is used to change the constitution and the power the centralized government has, over the people.
The Founding Fathers would not be applauding the Republicans' inability to compromise when this country was founded on compromise.
When Lincoln called a vote on the 13th Amendment to free slaves, all republicans on board to vote yes. Democrats wanted no part of the vote and tried to table voting on the 13th Amendment just like Reid is tabling today. They almost pulled tabling the vote off. Republicans were outnumbered but there were a few democrats that they were able to perused to vote yes. Just think of it, had the democrats had their way you would have been born a slave.
I am not sad that slaves were freed (it was the right thing to do). It is sad what was done with that freedom.
When Lincoln called a vote on the 13th Amendment to free slaves, he had all republicans on board to vote yes and all Democrats to vote against the freeing of slaves. Republicans were outnumbered but there were a few democrats that they were able to perused to vote yes. Just think of it, had the democrats still had their way you would have been born a slave.
I am not sad that slaves were freed (it was the right thing to do). It is sad what was done with that freedom.
Thanks for the strawman response. obviously you know nothing about political history or you are pretending you don't so you can run with this strawman post.
Is this a general question or about something specific?
Glance at the Bill of Rights and then look around.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 1st amendment from the 230 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 2nd amendment from the 150 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 4th amendment from the 200 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 5th amendment from the 220 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 10th amendment from the 150 years prior.
Nature of man does not change. There will be some who want unlimited power and if given they will abuse that power and our constitution was written to prevent one person having too much power. Obama and the democrats have already shown just a hint of what he is capable of if he does not get his way.
If you support Obama "NEVER" make the mistake of believing you will not be on the receiving end of that abuse of power.
Glance at the Bill of Rights and then look around.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 1st amendment from the 230 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 2nd amendment from the 150 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 4th amendment from the 200 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 5th amendment from the 220 years prior.
I didn't see an amendment to change the 10th amendment from the 150 years prior.
You still didn't answer my question. I can only assume that you were making a general statement.
The Founders had severe limitations as evidenced by the detrimental effect that today's pathetic Republicans are having in decimating Congress and our society. They thought black people would forever be slaves, yet here the nation is being so effectively run by a black man.
you know nothing about the founders or our history.
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Today, the nation applauds DEMOCRATS, while Republicans continue their free fall. You continue to speculate about what dead people might've thought, while reality favor the preservation and perpetuation of liberals and progressives.
We don't need to speculate about what the founders (whom you desparagingly refer to as 'dead people') thought. Their writings are preserved for all time. We know what they thought. We have their words in print.
"Progressivism," is recycled Marxist/Socialism. It doesn't work, has never worked, and it isn't going to work, no matter how often you try. It always fails.
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Nature of man does not change. There will be some who want unlimited power and if given they will abuse that power. Obama and the democrats have already shown just a hint of what he is capable of if he does not get his way.
If you support Obama "NEVER" make the mistake of believing you will not be on the receiving end of that abuse of power.
You mean like how House Republicans have abused their power. Did you know anyone in the House could try and bring a vote to the floor, but the House Republicans recently changed the rules so that only the majority can bring a vote to the floor preventing Democrats from stopping this shutdown.
To spend or not spend is for the House to decide. To fund or not to fund ObamaCare is their "right to choose," and based on the enormous cost and the amount of waste involved in ObamaCare, and our current debt, not funding it would reassert the fiscal function they were entrusted with.
Benjamin Franklin would be proud of Republican efforts to defund ObamaCare.
I sincerely have my doubts. They would be so utterly aghast at the monstrosity the federal government has become, that they would be wondering why another armed revolution hasn't occurred to throw off the bondage of a government that is worse than the K of E was in their day.
That the GOP and Democrats have slightly different views, but both are enthusiastically supporting the violation of the Constitution with impunity does not lead one to believe that the founders would be "proud" of them.
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obviously you know nothing about political history or you are pretending you don't so you can run with this strawman post.
