Obamacare Premium Estimates (Indiana, state government, states, federal)

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1

And the people that had affordable health insurance are often seeing their rates spike rather dramatically.

So the 30 million who WERE uninsured will be replaced by 30 million who cannot afford the price of BEING insured.

Yep, that's progress(ives) for you, D.C.-style.

Redistribution of Wealth 101

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by Frozenyo

Yes, what a nightmare. The most vulnerable amongst us can obtain affordable healthcare. Ahh, yeah, run for the hills.

The most vulnerable amongst us always HAD healthcare. And since it was pretty much free, it was affordable for them.

It's the middle class getting screwed here. And you say your costs haven't budged? Not yet.......

[theunbrainwashed]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

You aren't even close in your assessment.

I see you can' t explain WHY you voted for Corbett. It's because you are lying.

Go back and read my old posts from before November 2012, then. I used to be as braindead as you, probably worse. I put up with Alex Jones for 3 years

[Kracer]

Originally Posted by Cruithne

Lets see. The shutdown cost $24 billion.
The population of the United States is around 313 million.
I make that $76.67 per person.

From what I've heard so far, $75 is roughly the average cost of one months Obamacare premium per person.

I think that speaks for itself.

theoretical numbers for political ammunition..........however,

Is that outrage also extended to historic and current government waste that makes those numbers look like pocket change????

Fraud and Abuse in Federal Programs | Downsizing the Federal Government

also in one year during obama's reign........

"Washington (AP) - More than $98 billion in taxpayer dollars spent by government agencies was wasted, much of it on questionable claims for tax credits and Medicare benefits, representing an increase of $26 billion from the previous year."

[ntwrkguy1]

Originally Posted by ringwise

Redistribution of Wealth 101

So true.....

[ntwrkguy1]

Originally Posted by biscuitmom

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Obviously Ted Cruz has neither read, much less grasped, what the ACA will deliver to his constituents.

Apparently you have read the ACA, cover to cover, and I salute you for that, because there are a lot of pages of legalese there. I personally have not read the ACA cover to cover, but I do have a pretty decent grasp of economics.

I -- along with lots of others on this thread -- would love to hear what the ACA will deliver.

[evilnewbie]

Originally Posted by Frozenyo

https://www.healthcare.gov/find-premium-estimates/

With the site being constantly upgraded, they've added the ability for people to browse plans without completing the entire application. This should (in theory) help stunt all the ridiculous rumors about super high premiums and whatnot. I think Ted Cruz was right, once people get it they'll love and wont give it up. I'm glad more people will have access to affordable healthcare.

What ridiculous rumor? I will say for some reason it is about $100 cheaper on the "estimator" then it was when I looked but still in the solid $1000/month for the bronze plan (the cheapest plan) but at least now I know that the gold plan is over $600 more than the bronze plan (because I stopped looking once I saw the cheapest plan was $1000 per month)... I guess I will have to stay with the Pre-Obamacare plan at $200/month... only to have it go to close to $500 in 2014 and higher deductibles because of Obamacare but $500/month is still cheaper than Obamacare....

[biscuitmom]

Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1

Apparently you have read the ACA, cover to cover, and I salute you for that, because there are a lot of pages of legalese there. I personally have not read the ACA cover to cover, but I do have a pretty decent grasp of economics.

I -- along with lots of others on this thread -- would love to hear what the ACA will deliver.

You put words in my mouth, attributed a quote to me that wasn't mine.

[Red_Diamond]

Originally Posted by Frozenyo

I have insurance and my rates haven't budged. I also don't know anybody personally that's had their premium go up, NOBODY. I keep hearing that same talking point but don't know any real life person experiencing it. But hey, I know folks have to spread propaganda as fast as they can because people are starting to realize the ACA is not the doomsday threat conservatives want them to think it is...Remember medicare and social security? Same crowd said the same thing. In a strange twist, these same weirdos nominated Romney who put forth the same plan as Gov. Yeah, I think this isn't about the ACA, it's their pure hatred for Obama personally.

You must not know too many people.

I am currently paying $468mo for BCBS. The ACA Silver plan, which is the plan that most closely follows the one I am on now, will cost me $9877.62 annually. Just in case math isn't your strong suit, that's $823.14 a month.

I have seen numerous people on here stating a similar experience. Now either you have a reading comprehension issue, or you just enjoy spewing propaganda.

Now which is it?

[ChrisC]

What makes you think that I should pay for your life or you should pay for mine? Give me a logical argument that justifies it. You may as well forget it because there isn't one.

You people are so hung up on the idea that your care is the responsibility of everyone else besides yourself that you can't think straight. Do you want the rest of us to wipe your ass for you as well? Present it to Louis XVI -- he'll probably mandate it.