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My mistake. Did he not admit what his tax rate is? As an absolute number than cannot possibly be spun? As a single person with no children, yes, I did pay a higher rate than that.
You do realize the difference in types of taxable income right? One other thing, you do realize Romney and others in his bracket paid more in taxes than I'm guessing you made in a year, or possibly 5?
Taxes on earned income vs capitol gains are figured at different rates.
Because we on the left do not care. We never cared about Obamacare. The left sees Obamacare as a necessary evil as we transition to single payer, and always has. Whether it succeeds or fails is of no meaning to us. The old system was not working, and single payer will, but because the country was not ready for single payer we need this bridge.
I still don't think Obama lied, I think he "bull****ted," but even if he did lie, I do not care.
This is why the left needs to lie about both their ideological agenda and their political agenda. If Obama and his ilk were honest with the people about their intentions, they would never get elected.
The liberal left's problem is they think government run, Utopian perfection is achievable, if we only just gave over our rights and freedoms to government. So where was the perfection in the ACA? Was it the miserable failure of the healthcare.gov web site, or the many sections of the ACA that Obama has been forced to delay, or was it all the missed deadlines that Sebelius was unable to meet?
Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, and the Chinese Communists of today, they all had their master plans, which required that the little people must suffer until the government orchestrated Utopia could be achieved.
I feel Obama lied because he said you would be and now we find out it is if your plan was not a plan that did not cover everything the ACA required health plans to be 2014.
December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.
Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of guns, bombs, ammo, etc. Turning the tide in North Africa, Invading Italy, D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!
March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.
And they can't build a webpage.
What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government to build a working webpage.
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There seems to be a controversy on this message board and MSNBC as to whether President Obama lied when he said, again and again, "If you like your insurance plan, you can keep it. Period."
Did he lie or was he telling the truth?
He's always lied, Trace.
About everything. You know that that's all he does.
December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.
Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of guns, bombs, ammo, etc. Turning the tide in North Africa, Invading Italy, D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!
March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.
And they can't build a webpage.
What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government to build a working webpage.
Strawman comparison.
I agree, the website is a big failure but to compare it to the efforts in World War II (which on the European and African fronts had help from the Russians, Brits and even the French to extent) is wrong.
December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.
Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of guns, bombs, ammo, etc. Turning the tide in North Africa, Invading Italy, D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!
March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.
And they can't build a webpage.
What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government to build a working webpage.
I agree, the website is a big failure but to compare it to the efforts in World War II (which on the European and African fronts had help from the Russians, Brits and even the French to extent) is wrong.
A gargantuan world wide successful effort compared to a big task but not against as huge odds is just a strawman argument?
A gargantuan world wide successful effort compared to a big task but not against as huge odds is just a strawman argument?
No.
It's no where fair because you had the US other Allies pooling resources to fight the Axis Powers. With Obamacare, it doesn't have pooled international resources.
It's no where fair because you had the US other Allies pooling resources to fight the Axis Powers. With Obamacare, it doesn't have pooled international resources.
Sure it does, there's worldwide examples of what doesn't work and a couple that do work but cost an arm and a leg.
Given all the worldwide examples we should've been right on target tweaking the flaws of others and enhancing the positives.
Here's the thing, there's no way in hades that Obama could've sold this plan if he'd come to the people and said "we're going to roll out Obamacare but..... We're going to have to ****** the tax structure to mirror Sweden or Norway.
Ya think THAT would've flown????
So, what does he do? He shoves it down our throats FULLY aware that it'll fail unless some radical steps are taken to PAY FOR IT. Make it so painful that the public will beg,BEG you to do something, anything to "fix" it.
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Another perspective.
