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Old 11-14-2013, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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The issue, though, is that it used to be different, and within the lifetimes of some of us. The level of economic injustice today is unprecedented since the United States became a superpower.
This simply means we have more lazy people in this country that are unwilling to work for what they want. They want it given to them on a silver plater.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:32 AM
 
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How Unequal We Are: The Top 5 Facts You Should Know About The Wealthiest One Percent Of Americans | ThinkProgress

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This needs to change and some people do not see this as a problem . This right here is why republicans should never have a majority of any every again if they do they will own 60% to 70% of the wealth and US will be a third world country
All I see is the poor getting poorer under Obama and the rich getting richer. The middle class will need to pay for it, like always.
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Wealth only influences those who want it.
People who seek prosperity - producing, trading and enjoying surplus usable goods and services, aren't concerned about wealth.
Money is worthless if there's nothing in the marketplace for sale, or if no one will sell for money tokens.
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:46 AM
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A few generations ago basic civic responsibility included taking care of your own family.
And people still do that in many cases, but one of the insidious aspects of poverty in an economy afflicted by right-wing avarice is that it spreads. Where a generation ago perhaps one family member or two would have been in a tough spot. With the right-wing promulgated doubling of economic injustice in the last generation, so many more people are unable to pay their own way. Now whole extended families find themselves in that situation. And with egoistic right-wingers working hard to make things increasingly more difficult for those most vulnerable in society, attempting to double economic injustice for a second time in as many generations, those who may have the means to pay their own way and a little more need to save that incremental amount or otherwise invest it in advancing their own situation away from the oncoming second wave of poverty that the right-wing is trying to spread, rather than take in a sibling who cannot find any living wage jobs.

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Today, a growing segment of the population feels entitled.
No. Those who are the nexus of the problem, the rich and powerful, have always felt entitled. Entitled not only to financial security, but also entitled to use their financial power to exploit lax protections against those less fortunate for their own personal gain.

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This simply means we have more lazy people in this country that are unwilling to work for what they want. They want it given to them on a silver plater.
No. It means we have more people duped by right-wing policy lousy with egoistic avarice. Denying the offensively exploitative nature of what you support doesn't add to your credibility - quite the opposite.

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All I see is the poor getting poorer under Obama and the rich getting richer. The middle class will need to pay for it, like always.
The poor got poorer quicker under Bush than under Obama. Slowing the pace of the decline is one of the major successes of the Obama administration, which right-wingers cannot bring themselves to honorably admit.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:00 AM
 
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Well, certainly minimum wage has. It's actually gone down considerably since the 1960s. And with it, I'm sure many other wages that are more closely tied to the minimum wage (such as those who say "we don't pay minimum wage!!!" while paying $7.50 an hour). There may be millions more immigrants and women workers, that doesn't mean wages are better now than they were then for a large sector of the population.
Please read and think. Your post obviously ignored what I wrote.

Donald Boudreaux and Mark Perry: The Myth of a Stagnant Middle Class - WSJ.com

-Studies that look at real life individuals show wages in the vast majority of cases beating inflation from the 1960s to today. Even low skill people. Only studies that look at the national average, which ignores the fact that they are getting weighed down by millions of new low wage/low skill workers entering the economy - show that there are stagnant wages.

-Per the federal government statistics, people spend a smaller percentage of their income on necessities today than in the 1950s. Housing, food, clothing are dropping as a % of household expenditures.

-In 1960 things like air line travel was less common for middle class people. Today air line travel is common for the middle class. With better technology means more things affordable to the middle class including healthcare, cell phones, etc... People are getting more bang for their buck. People pretend this isn't true. But how many of you would go back to 1950...everything...1950s wages with 1950s products...no internet no cable TV, 1950s health care, etc...

-Companies spend more on other benefits to the employee today than back then. Wages are only 1 form of compensation. 31% of employee compensation comes in the form of dental insurance, health insurance, 401K matches, etc... a higher percent than when wages supposedly became stagnant.

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Old 11-14-2013, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How Unequal We Are: The Top 5 Facts You Should Know About The Wealthiest One Percent Of Americans | ThinkProgress

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This needs to change and some people do not see this as a problem . This right here is why republicans should never have a majority of any every again if they do they will own 60% to 70% of the wealth and US will be a third world country
So then you are against legalizing masses of poor illegals who will greatly impact that 1% number?
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:39 AM
 
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So then you are against legalizing masses of poor illegals who will greatly impact that 1% number?
Stopping immigration would certainly halt the growth in inequality of the 1%. I am not advocating that, but it would solve his crisis. Or we could tax all US citizens drastically and hand immigrants $80K at the border to level it out more.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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All I see is the poor getting poorer under Obama and the rich getting richer. The middle class will need to pay for it, like always.
The middle class is increasingly getting shoved into the poor demographic. That's by design. The Dems know darn well that's their largest voter demographic. If Dems actually helped people achieve and succeed, they'd lose their vote. The only way for Dems to stay in power is to keep as many people as poor as possible.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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As long as they continue QE the divide will get bigger.
If you're smart then you've been playing Wall Street all along riding on their coattails to get whatever little crumbs of cap gains you can. I know I have.

In the end who pays back all that QE money ? Why taxpayers of course.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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And people still do that in many cases, but one of the insidious aspects of poverty in an economy afflicted by right-wing avarice is that it spreads. Where a generation ago perhaps one family member or two would have been in a tough spot. With the right-wing promulgated doubling of economic injustice in the last generation, so many more people are unable to pay their own way. Now whole extended families find themselves in that situation. And with egoistic right-wingers working hard to make things increasingly more difficult for those most vulnerable in society, attempting to double economic injustice for a second time in as many generations, those who may have the means to pay their own way and a little more need to save that incremental amount or otherwise invest it in advancing their own situation away from the oncoming second wave of poverty that the right-wing is trying to spread, rather than take in a sibling who cannot find any living wage jobs.

No. Those who are the nexus of the problem, the rich and powerful, have always felt entitled. Entitled not only to financial security, but also entitled to use their financial power to exploit lax protections against those less fortunate for their own personal gain.

No. It means we have more people duped by right-wing policy lousy with egoistic avarice. Denying the offensively exploitative nature of what you support doesn't add to your credibility - quite the opposite.

The poor got poorer quicker under Bush than under Obama. Slowing the pace of the decline is one of the major successes of the Obama administration, which right-wingers cannot bring themselves to honorably admit.

Do you find it difficult to type out that load of whiny, infantile pablum with Cherrios stuck to your fingers?
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