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Old 12-02-2013, 06:26 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Our corporate tax rates are too high

(While our realized corporate tax rates are second or third lowest among industrialized nations)

 
Old 12-02-2013, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Waiting for a streetcar
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Rich people are JOB CREATORS.

Tax cuts increase revenue.

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme.

Guffaw! Guffaw! Guffaw! Those are some knee-slappers, alright.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Industrial revolution was in the 19th century. There are meanwhile libraries full of work showing that progressive taxation is more effective and efficient than flat or regressive taxation. There are many things that you have never seen that exist. In fact there is no link at all between existence and what you have seen.
Very well said!

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So the minorities that founded and/or joined the Tea Party are racists?

This oughta be good...
Name three founders of the Tea Party who are minorities, including at least one black and one hispanic.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:12 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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it should be understood that the Bill of Rights is not a complete list of the rights enjoyed by the people that must be respected
The mere existence of the BOR counteracts your claim. The BOR was added via the Amendment process, as outlined in Article V, which exists for the sole purpose of amending the Constitution. The Framers foresaw the need to amend the Constitution in order to forestall those who would make your same argument, in order to justify their violating both the letter and the spirit of the Constitution in furtherance of their own agendas - those whose mindset was more like Hamilton's rather than Jefferson's.

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the Constitution proper is not a complete list of the powers vested in the federal government that must be respected.
Says those who prefer to err on the side of government power at the expense of personal liberty. I think Benjamin Franklin had something to say about that...
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:17 AM
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Greed is good.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:24 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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Name three founders of the Tea Party who are minorities, including at least one black and one hispanic.
Rather that divert from the claim at hand (that the Tea Party is racist), defend that claim with factual evidence, or admit that the claim is a stereotype built upon a specious assumption. Your silence will be construed as the latter.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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Our corporate tax rates are too high

(While our realized corporate tax rates are second or third lowest among industrialized nations)

Add to the BS list the operative mindset that leads people to say and believe Timberline's quote:

We should base our tax rates (or healthcare system, or anything else for that matter) on what other countries are doing, as opposed to what we actually need in this country.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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Name three founders of the Tea Party who are minorities, including at least one black and one hispanic.
Anthony Johnson was the first non-endured slave holder in America. He was black.

So, if we can deduce that since the founders of the Tea Party were all white, it must be a racist organization; we should also deduce that slavery in the US was created by black people and black people should blame black people for it. Oh, and let's definitely not forget that it was black Africans selling the majority of slaves to Portuguese, French, British and Dutch slave traders.

What does race have to do with the message of fiscal responsibility?

Oh, yeah, nothing.

Why not address the issues that concern the Tea Party instead of just trying to insinuate racism?

Actually, we know the answer to that question.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:36 AM
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Apple is better and more user-friendly.
 
Old 12-02-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Add to the BS list the operative mindset that leads people to say and believe Timberline's quote:

We should base our tax rates (or healthcare system, or anything else for that matter) on what other countries are doing, as opposed to what we actually need in this country.

You're right. We should do what we want, because we're the USA! And not do what works well for the world at large and provides better outcomes for a better price (single payer healthcare). Heck, we should be different just because we're the USA and we know better than everyone else! Our humans are significantly different than other humans because we're AMERICANS.
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