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Old 12-05-2013, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Why are you so against this?? Why cant FACTS be comprehended?
It is like a religion to them...The heritage foundation says jump and they say "how high?"

 
Old 12-05-2013, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Because facts have a known liberal bias, Duh!
Facts have bias?..Have you ever gone to school, ever? That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 10:59 PM
 
Location: WA
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Facts have bias?..Have you ever gone to school, ever? That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
That user was being sarcastic, btw
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Hard-to-predict sudden changes to Earth’s environment are more worrisome than larger but more gradual impacts of climate change, according a panel of scientists advising the federal government. A 200-page report released Tuesday by the National Academy of Sciences repeatedly warns of potential climate “tipping points” beyond which “major and rapid changes occur.” And some of these changes—happening in years instead of centuries—have already begun. They include melting ice in the Arctic Ocean and mass species extinctions. Report Warns of Sudden Climate Change Impacts – News Watch
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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That user was being sarcastic, btw
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:04 PM
 
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I said externalities, not subsidies.
You have a short memory, here's the quote:



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Should we immediately end fossil fuel subsidies then? I'm cool with that, but again I'm lucky enough to be able to take the bus when gas immediately goes up to $11/gallon.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:13 PM
 
Location: WA
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You have a short memory, here's the quote:
Alright, I meant externalities then. And my estimate was conservative.

Meh, never mind. Why am I trying to defend myself from getting discredited by the coal industry*?

*The Most Trusted Name in Coal!
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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This from the poster that claims removing $5 billion in tax subsidies is going to drive gasoline prices up to $11. LOL.
OOps....A new report (pdf) by CDP, an environmental data company, reveals that twenty-nine major companies including oil giants ExxonMobil, ConocoPhillips, Chevron, Shell and BP, are incorporating a price on carbon emissions in their long-term financial planning. The cost, ranging from $6 to $60 per metric ton, could affect how much companies pay for energy, invest in efficiency and charge their customers. While some of these companies have spent millions lobbying against just public policy that would put a carbon price in place, climate change Cassandras see the inclusion of such figures in their financial planning as a sign that their positions are evolving—and that change could be on the way. What do oil companies know about climate change that politicians don’t? – Quartz
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:23 PM
 
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Alright, I meant externalities then. And my estimate was conservative.
I might be able to believe that if you had sought to clarify what you meant the next post but you didn't. It was many posts later after painting yourself into a corner that you tried to use that excuse.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:26 PM
 
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OOps....A new report (pdf) by CDP, an environmental data company, reveals that twenty-nine major companies including oil giants ExxonMobil, ConocoPhillips, Chevron, Shell and BP, are incorporating a price on carbon emissions in their long-term financial planning. The cost, ranging from $6 to $60 per metric ton, could affect how much companies pay for energy, invest in efficiency and charge their customers. While some of these companies have spent millions lobbying against just public policy that would put a carbon price in place, climate change Cassandras see the inclusion of such figures in their financial planning as a sign that their positions are evolving—and that change could be on the way. What do oil companies know about climate change that politicians don’t? – Quartz
And what does that have to with the relationship between oil subsidies and the price at the pump?
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