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Old 12-17-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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I thought you guys wanted to get welfare across the board to balance the budget? Why are you suddenly against cutting one of the biggest entitlement programs in the country? Oh, I know why
Why?
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Just got the news of the medicare reimbursements for 2014. Across many specialties, there are up to 50% cuts in procedures and surgeries (not office visits). These cuts will affect, of course, specialists rather than internists or primary care docs.

With such cuts, practices accepting medicare would lose money on every patient. Further, many insurance contracts are pegged to percentages of medicare.

Gee.............. I wonder what will happen to medicare patient access over 2014? When looting $750 billion from medicare to fund Obamacare, did anyone really think that there would not be a decline in quality and access for medicare patients?
So, you want more welfare spending, not less?
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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Why?
Easy. Because the Medicare/Social Security constituency is the biggest GOP voting bloc in the country. GOP wouldn't dare cut their own voters off at the knees
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Easy. Because the Medicare/Social Security constituency is the biggest GOP voting bloc in the country. GOP wouldn't dare cut their own voters off at the knees
Why do you think GOP increased welfare spending by half a trillion in 2003? To buy votes for the 2004 elections.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Just got the news of the medicare reimbursements for 2014. Across many specialties, there are up to 50% cuts in procedures and surgeries (not office visits). These cuts will affect, of course, specialists rather than internists or primary care docs.

With such cuts, practices accepting medicare would lose money on every patient. Further, many insurance contracts are pegged to percentages of medicare.

Gee.............. I wonder what will happen to medicare patient access over 2014? When looting $750 billion from medicare to fund Obamacare, did anyone really think that there would not be a decline in quality and access for medicare patients?
Which is why the number of doctors who accept MediCare/MedicAid patients in Alaska has dropped from 20% to 10% since 2009. What is the point of having coverage if you cannot obtain treatment?
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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Why do you think GOP increased welfare spending by half a trillion in 2003? To buy votes for the 2004 elections.
Of course. Never underestimate a Republican's ability to pig out at the taxpayer trough while crying fowl of same at the same time They can try to play word games like "We're just repatriating tax dollars" but that only works for dummies and lemmings
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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I thought you guys wanted to get welfare across the board to balance the budget? Why are you suddenly against cutting one of the biggest entitlement programs in the country? Oh, I know why
Yep. We hear nothing from the right, especially the Tea Party, except that we need to cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. But what they really mean is cut stuff that doesn't affect them. I predict we are going to hear howling from the TP-types about the cuts in Medicare that are coming in the next few years, and they won't give a thought to their own hypocrisy.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Just got the news of the medicare reimbursements for 2014. Across many specialties, there are up to 50% cuts in procedures and surgeries (not office visits). These cuts will affect, of course, specialists rather than internists or primary care docs.

With such cuts, practices accepting medicare would lose money on every patient. Further, many insurance contracts are pegged to percentages of medicare.

Gee.............. I wonder what will happen to medicare patient access over 2014? When looting $750 billion from medicare to fund Obamacare, did anyone really think that there would not be a decline in quality and access for medicare patients?
This post is full of misconceptions. Please show examples where doctors will get 50% less per procedure. Which procedures? The $750 billion was a Romney claim but it's a reduction in the rate of growth over 10 years. The Medicare budget is still going up each year. Officially the budget for payments to doctors has been cut every year for the past 10 years but in practice Congress overrides or fixes these cuts (cuts that they authorized) so they don't happen.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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This post is full of misconceptions. Please show examples where doctors will get 50% less per procedure. Which procedures? The $750 billion was a Romney claim but it's a reduction in the rate of growth over 10 years. The Medicare budget is still going up each year. Officially the budget for payments to doctors has been cut every year for the past 10 years but in practice Congress overrides or fixes these cuts (cuts that they authorized) so they don't happen.
The new Ryan-Murray budget plan leaves the Medicare sequester cuts pretty much in place.
Don't know if that means that they will be as drastic as noted in the OP, but...

Budget deal would extend Medicare sequester cuts | Modern Healthcare

Budget Deal Whacks Medicare Providers
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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Why do you think GOP increased welfare spending by half a trillion in 2003? To buy votes for the 2004 elections.
Why would the GOP have to "buy votes" from old people?
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