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As a person with the word Sandwich in his username, I find this loss of fine Sandwich Assembly Engineers and Financial Transaction Operators to be a shame.
Republicans have no future in this country - nor do they deserve one - until and unless they get behind America's working men and women. Those who snicker like school children at hard-working fast food workers' fight for a fairer slice of the pie don't deserve the country they inherited....and they won't have it for long....as a little bit more of it disappears every day.
As for Obama? He turned out to be the worst of both worlds and has disappointed most everyone across the spectrum. But America took him warts and all over Gordon Gecko. So will they continue to so long as the ethical vacuum on the conservative side persists.
you mean until republicans get behind the unions and support them entirely. sorry but the unions are a big part of the problem here. too often they demand things that are not in the best interests of either the business, or the employees, they go on strike at the drop of a hat, any ones hat, and striking workers generally cause all kinds of problems for replacement workers that are hired because a business does have to stay open and make money otherwise it dies. sorry i have seen what unions do, and the problems they cause, and they need to go away unless they reform the union management structure and eliminate the criminal element and the power brokers.
as for the ethical vacuum for conservatives, there really is none, but there is for those that call themselves conservatives, like mccain and bush, and boehner. these and many others are not conservatives though they claim to be.
Glad to see that the fact that employers hold all the cards makes you giddy with joy. Do employers EVER do anything wrong? Ever?? Sad when the thought of workers losing their job makes a person happy.
No, employers do not hold all the cards.
An employee can increase their value, work somewhere else, or otherwise show that they consider themselves more valuable then the employer may.
They have leverage when it comes to asking for a raise only if they provide it themselves.
A kid with no education working a first time job at a sandwich is not going to have much leverage. That is why it is called a first time job, and entry level. One has to work their way up the ladder, obtain marketable skills, and acquire experience if they want to make more money.
It is a two way street, and this type of employment is at will.
If someone is unhappy and isn't going to do anything to make them selves more valuable to an employer, then they are free to leave that employment and work elsewhere.
I'm not all that familiar with your posting history, but if you are fundamentally conservative, we no doubt agree on a lot.
I'm fundamentally common sense.
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My sense is that you are quite young, like most posters here, but by all means correct me if I'm wrong. This is not at all about Obama....or GWB, and yet most here try to frame everything as though the state of America today can be directly connected to/blamed on either of the last two Presidents. It's much bigger that that and goes back much further.
Many of the problems do lay in the lap of the last two presidents. You can go back further and point out the start of certain problems but neither did anything to stop them but rather they expanded them. I'm 52.
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This country largely put an end to unfair and immoral exploitive labor practices early in the previous century. And our ancestors did this not only because it was the right thing to do, but because the nature of the wealth distribution that resulted was, by far, the most beneficial to the long-term well being of American business and the American citizenry. It built a country that became the envy of the world. A country of incomparable strength and forward vision. A country with the brightest future in the history of man.
Back then, American business designed, built, and sold things. They made money the old-fashioned way - they earned it.
But over time as the century progressed, more and more a new breed was at the helm. A short-thinking and immature breed....driven by the vision of the obscene-level profits that could be realized by going back to the good old days of labor exploitation - the sweat shops. But America had moved above and beyond that....to the betterment of all.
But there was more than one way for the modern soul-less sociopath CEO to skin a cat. There was a whole new world of hungry and desperate labor to exploit - the 3rd world. But how, they wondered, could they possibly sell that to the American people? Two word answer - Ronald Reagan. Simply put a President in place who had Americans - labor and business alike - in the palm of his hand. And it was done.
A few of us woke up and realized we'd been had by midway through his second term. Many more saw the light as the 90s unfolded. But some are blind to this day....including some posting in this thread.
While I won't argue that Reagan did things wrong also we can not blame the problems of today on someone that hasn't been president for over a quarter of a century. If there were things that needed addressed we have had 4 presidents since then to do that.
Just the same as I won't let Clinton off the hook completely for signing Gramm-Rudman there has been two presidents since then that has done nothing to change that.
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Republicans have no future in this country - nor do they deserve one - until and unless they get behind America's working men and women. Those who snicker like school children at hard-working fast food workers' fight for a fairer slice of the pie don't deserve the country they inherited....and they won't have it for long....as a little bit more of it disappears every day.
Both parties have done nearly everything they could to beat down the lower classes. Saying the right things without actually doing them is not acceptable. The wealth gap has grown by leaps and bounds under Obama and it's certainly not the GOP controlling the governments economic policies.
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As for Obama? He turned out to be the worst of both worlds and has disappointed most everyone across the spectrum. But America took him warts and all over Gordon Gecko. So will they continue to so long as the ethical vacuum on the conservative side persists.
We have choices between what one considers the lesser of two evils. The lesser evil is still evil.
Those who snicker like school children at hard-working fast food workers' fight for a fairer slice of the pie don't deserve the country they inherited....and they won't have it for long....as a little bit more of it disappears every day.
TANSTAAFL. Look it up. What, exactly, do these sandwich engineers bring to the table to earn their living? A heartbeat? "Inherited" or not, it takes more than that nowadays. You characterize them as "hard working" while the rest of us see them as entitled and lazy, thinking that what they are doing constitutes a career or even a living. Again, what do they offer of any real value to an employer who in many cases is just trying to make payroll?
TANSTAAFL. Look it up. What, exactly, do these sandwich engineers bring to the table to earn their living? A heartbeat? "Inherited" or not, it takes more than that nowadays. You characterize them as "hard working" while the rest of us see them as entitled and lazy, thinking that what they are doing constitutes a career or even a living. Again, what do they offer of any real value to an employer who in many cases is just trying to make payroll?
The way to get a bigger slice of the pie is to increase your value by being a better worker, getting a better job, and bringing home a better paycheck. Not lamenting about a being underpaid in a job that should only be held by students.
It's always amazing how Christianist conservatives love to cheer against people trying to earn a living here in the United States, then turn around and whine about too many people being on "welfare.
The way to get a bigger slice of the pie is to increase your value by being a better worker, getting a better job, and bringing home a better paycheck. Not lamenting about a being underpaid in a job that should only be held by students.
So one can't possibly be underpaid just because they make sandwiches? Really?
And who says that sandwich making should only be done by students. What law says that?
Glad to see that the fact that employers hold all the cards makes you giddy with joy. Do employers EVER do anything wrong? Ever?? Sad when the thought of workers losing their job makes a person happy.
Of course employers do wrong, that's why you're free to leave an employer.....unlike the communist ideology that lefties love so much.
They created their own situation by walking out.....hell, they didn't like their jobs anyway!
So one can't possibly be underpaid just because they make sandwiches? Really?
And who says that sandwich making should only be done by students. What law says that?
What is the industry standard for that area? If paid less than that standard then they are underpaid.
No law says that only students should be the only ones to perform a job. The fact is that entry level jobs are normally done by students. That's because of the level of skill and or experience required to do the job. The pay reflects this. If you want better pay seek a job that is more demanding.
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