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An employee can increase their value, work somewhere else, or otherwise show that they consider themselves more valuable then the employer may.
They have leverage when it comes to asking for a raise only if they provide it themselves.
A kid with no education working a first time job at a sandwich is not going to have much leverage. That is why it is called a first time job, and entry level. One has to work their way up the ladder, obtain marketable skills, and acquire experience if they want to make more money.
It is a two way street, and this type of employment is at will.
If someone is unhappy and isn't going to do anything to make them selves more valuable to an employer, then they are free to leave that employment and work elsewhere.
When there are 2-3 available workers for every available job - the employee has little to no leverage. Of course employers take advantage of a bad economy.
Employment at will ensures that the employer holds all the cards.
It's always amazing how Christianist conservatives love to cheer against people trying to earn a living here in the United States, then turn around and whine about too many people being on "welfare.
Christian conservatives have nothing to do with this thread.
It's all about idiots standing in the street yelping and bellyaching when they should be inside working.
See how easy it is to understand? Well.....for most people. You're right about how they should have been on the job trying to earn a living instead of pi**ing and moaning. See how far that got them?
So one can't possibly be underpaid just because they make sandwiches? Really?
And who says that sandwich making should only be done by students. What law says that?
Honestly, making a sandwich doesn't require much in the way of training or skills. Pay for a job is based on numerous things, including, how difficult is it to get workers for that job, the skill required, the amount of training required to get the employee productive.
I work with computers, and deal with networking, several various types of routers, Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 as well as Mac OSX 10.5 through current, as well all manner of tablets and other devices. My job takes a LOT of training, and it is not every person walking down the road, who can be hired and trained to take over my job.
Therefore, MY pay is higher than minimum wage, and training someone for the job I do, requires a person already with certain knowledge/skill and a certain amount of time and effort. I go out of my way to ensure my skills remain current, and I volunteer to work overtime, and perform extra duties, thus further ensuring my value as an employee.
When my employer needed someone to fly to Nebraska and spend 10 days assisting in the training of people to increase our tech support group, I volunteered. Again, making my contribution to my employer even more valuable.
Because of all the above, my pay has gone up commensurate with my contribution.
BTW, further articles and investigation shows the sandwich workers actually making $9.50 an hour which is more than minimum wage.
Sorry, I find no humor in people loosing their jobs, especially at Christmas.
They have the right to protest under the law, just as the owner has the right to pay the wages he chooses, and I would not be surprised if this gets challenged in court under the labor laws. You generally don't fire people when you close to remodel, you lay them off and call them back when you reopen. I hope the employees sue.
Wait ... so, the employees have a right to protest. But the employer only has a right to pay whatever wages he chooses (within the law). He doesn't have a right to fire them? Why wouldn't he?
It's always amazing how Christianist conservatives love to cheer against people trying to earn a living here in the United States, then turn around and whine about too many people being on "welfare.
rubbish trying to blame christians for these people getting fired. they did it to themselves at worst, and at best they can reapply when the shop reopens for business. or did you not read that part of the article? and we dont cheer against people earning a living in this country, in fact we are all for it. but that means going out and doing the best job you can and improving your work skills, and then moving up the ladder to the next higher job and doing the same thing. you cant expect to graduate from school and suddenly get a job making $60,000 per year or more. you have to work your way up to that. no one owes you anything.
The way to get a bigger slice of the pie is to increase your value by being a better worker, getting a better job, and bringing home a better paycheck. Not lamenting about a being underpaid in a job that should only be held by students.
An employee can increase their value, work somewhere else, or otherwise show that they consider themselves more valuable then the employer may.
They have leverage when it comes to asking for a raise only if they provide it themselves.
A kid with no education working a first time job at a sandwich is not going to have much leverage. That is why it is called a first time job, and entry level. One has to work their way up the ladder, obtain marketable skills, and acquire experience if they want to make more money.
It is a two way street, and this type of employment is at will.
If someone is unhappy and isn't going to do anything to make them selves more valuable to an employer, then they are free to leave that employment and work elsewhere.
Something liberals appear to not infuse in their children. What you just described is what was known as the American Dream back in the day. Now the "dream" is to get a ****ty job and cry and whine about evil owners and employers and how nothing is fair. Our country is doomed.
Honestly, making a sandwich doesn't require much in the way of training or skills. Pay for a job is based on numerous things, including, how difficult is it to get workers for that job, the skill required, the amount of training required to get the employee productive.
I work with computers, and deal with networking, several various types of routers, Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 as well as Mac OSX 10.5 through current, as well all manner of tablets and other devices. My job takes a LOT of training, and it is not every person walking down the road, who can be hired and trained to take over my job.
Therefore, MY pay is higher than minimum wage, and training someone for the job I do, requires a person already with certain knowledge/skill and a certain amount of time and effort. I go out of my way to ensure my skills remain current, and I volunteer to work overtime, and perform extra duties, thus further ensuring my value as an employee.
When my employer needed someone to fly to Nebraska and spend 10 days assisting in the training of people to increase our tech support group, I volunteered. Again, making my contribution to my employer even more valuable.
Because of all the above, my pay has gone up commensurate with my contribution.
BTW, further articles and investigation shows the sandwich workers actually making $9.50 an hour which is more than minimum wage.
Well I don't know how one could spell it out any better than you just did. You get your worth. My kids could make their own sammiches when they were six years old. Sure maybe the mayo wasn't evenly distributed but they didn't care and I could have taught them to do it. lol. Just inanity rules with these folks who think they are owed something for actually "gasp" getting up in the morning and going to work. Just amazing.
Honestly, making a sandwich doesn't require much in the way of training or skills. Pay for a job is based on numerous things, including, how difficult is it to get workers for that job, the skill required, the amount of training required to get the employee productive.
I work with computers, and deal with networking, several various types of routers, Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 as well as Mac OSX 10.5 through current, as well all manner of tablets and other devices. My job takes a LOT of training, and it is not every person walking down the road, who can be hired and trained to take over my job.
Therefore, MY pay is higher than minimum wage, and training someone for the job I do, requires a person already with certain knowledge/skill and a certain amount of time and effort. I go out of my way to ensure my skills remain current, and I volunteer to work overtime, and perform extra duties, thus further ensuring my value as an employee.
When my employer needed someone to fly to Nebraska and spend 10 days assisting in the training of people to increase our tech support group, I volunteered. Again, making my contribution to my employer even more valuable.
Because of all the above, my pay has gone up commensurate with my contribution.
BTW, further articles and investigation shows the sandwich workers actually making $9.50 an hour which is more than minimum wage.
First, I want to say as an IT professional, you too can be hired by Bill Gates. . I'm not in IT i'm in computer science by the way.
Second, if they really were earning 9.50 an hour, then the owner was right to fire them. That is a perfectly reasonable wage for their line of work.
Third, I agree employees should make themselves more valuable to their employees.
However, I do want to point out that if they were being paid unfair wages after making them self of most value, then striking would be necessary. Please do not forget how employees were treated in the early 1900s.
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. I'm not in IT i'm in computer science by the way.
