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View Poll Results: What is the #1 reason/correlation for crime?
Lack of education 11 12.22%
Low income 8 8.89%
Poverty 29 32.22%
Certain racial groups 24 26.67%
Other 18 20.00%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-30-2013, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes, high areas often have minorities in them. But I can also point out that there are high crime areas where whites are the majority.

Portsmouth, Ohio for example.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Portsmouth-Ohio.html

There are also minority majority areas with low crime.
Bloomfield, Connecticut as an example of this.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Bloomf...nnecticut.html

People who automatically think minorities = bad are the ones who need a reality check.
Well duh. Of course there are always exceptions. But generally speaking, places with high minority populations have higher crime.

 
Old 12-30-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Breakdown of the family. Kids need stable parents, boundaries, and values instilled in them or they'll be feral.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 05:04 PM
 
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We should not confuse correlation with causation within any context, especially this one.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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How am I being racist? Please explain.

Of course there are towns throughout the country that have high minority populations with low crime. But generally speaking, most high crime cities that I have seen have noticeably (and measurably) higher minority populations. There are far, far more crime ridden places with high minority populations in this country than crime ridden white populated places. Everyone knows that. Stop pretending to ignore reality.

I'm not saying that the crime is because of their race. What I am saying, is that most places with high crime rates have high minority populations. Please now.
*The title of your poll: "What is the #1 reason/correlation for crime?"
*An option on your poll: "Certain racial groups"

That's exactly how you phrased your poll, however, whether you meant to or not. If that is not what you meant, then I would suggest editing your original post and clarifying that.

As I said before, the root cause is poverty. Looking at your other poll examples, if you grew up in abject poverty chances are you did not receive a decent education in your failing local public school. Without a decent education and good grades, you're unlikely to get into college or to get a good enough scholarship so that you can even attend said university without being saddled with a level of student debt that's vastly higher than the national average. Without a decent education or job skills you cannot get a decent job, which means you're most likely going to be low income.

It all comes back around to poverty, the problems it causes, and the opportunities it removes from people in this country.

PS: Those cities went to shambles due to white flight and the loss of jobs btw. The white people moved out when black people moved in due to the Great Migration, and this left a lot of poor people in the cities without proper social services. This is also around the same time that manufacturing started to die in this country, so a lot of those jobs that people traveled across the country to get also disappeared.

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Old 12-30-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Florida
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*The title of your poll: "What is the #1 reason/correlation for crime?"
*An option on your poll: "Certain racial groups"

That's exactly how you phrased your poll, however, whether you meant to or not. If that is not what you meant, then I would suggest editing your original post and clarifying that.

As I said before, the root cause is poverty. Looking at your other poll examples, if you grew up in abject poverty chances are you did not receive a decent education in your failing local public school. Without a decent education and good grades you're unlikely to get into college or to get a good enough scholarship so that you can even attend said university without being saddled with a level of student debt that's vastly higher than the national average. Without a decent education or job skills you cannot get a decent job, which means you're most likely going to be low income.

It all comes back around to poverty, the problems it causes, and the opportunities it removes from people in this country.

PS: Those cities went to shambles due to white flight and the loss of jobs btw. The white moved out when black people moved in due to the Great Migration, and this left a lot of poor people in the cities without proper social services. This is also around the same time that manufacturing started to die in this country, so a lot of those jobs that people traveled across the country to get also disappeared.
Yes, I know. I only put "certain racial groups" there as an option, since the perceived cause of crime is often attributable to race. It's a poll and I wanted to see how people vote. I agree with everything else you said.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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I blame MTV.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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*Ignore the title

With your "certain racial groups" answer, I'm assuming that you meant black people. The problem with the black community is the lack of family structure. Fix that, and other issues will fix themselves.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 05:37 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Yes, I know. I only put "certain racial groups" there as an option, since the perceived cause of crime is often attributable to race. It's a poll and I wanted to see how people vote. I agree with everything else you said.
I apologize for calling you racist. That was rather extreme on my part, as I just wanted to highlight how the wording can be taken.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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With your "certain racial groups" answer, I'm assuming that you meant black people. The problem with the black community is the lack of family structure. Fix that, and other issues will fix themselves.
I assume you're referring to out-of-wedlock births? This should help explain things: Understanding Out-of-Wedlock Births in Black America - Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic

Furthermore, this is increasingly becoming an American "problem" and not just a "Black" problem:

Once largely limited to poor women and minorities, motherhood without marriage has settled deeply into middle America. The fastest growth in the last two decades has occurred among white women in their 20s who have some college education but no four-year degree, according to Child Trends, a Washington research group that analyzed government data.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us...iage.html?_r=0
 
Old 12-30-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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Well if you look at many cities, with huge minority populations, the crime is super high (e.g., Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC). But in cities where it's mostly white, the crime is lower (e.g., Boston, San Diego). At least here in the Northeast. Maybe it's not because of the peoples' race directly, but because minority races tend to have much more poverty. So it could be the poverty to blame. I don't know, so that's why I'm asking for your opinion.
There is a region here in the South called the Black Belt that's filled with black people that are in some of the worst poverty in the country. It's a rural region without the matching high crime rates of major cities.
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