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Old 01-03-2014, 09:07 PM
 
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Yet people who are working class poor work and are on welfare.....did you miss the "working class" part of my statement?

tell us why poor people can't move from poor class to middle class? they don't have enough education or enough skills to move up for many reasons. Drug addiction, single parent home, no/bad education, no work ethic.

Raising the MIN wage on the poor won't do anything. The cost of living will go up, that's one step forward and 2 steps backward.

 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:12 PM
 
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yeah the feds have a good track record .....lol

You forgot the but, sadly, one arm of government - in this case, the states - is creating problems that another arm of government - Congress - is trying to fix, and this rarely ends well.
 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:14 PM
 
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tell us why poor people can't move from poor class to middle class? they don't have enough education or enough skills to move up for many reasons. Drug addiction, single parent home, no/bad education, no work ethic.

Raising the MIN wage on the poor won't do anything. The cost of living will go up, that's one step forward and 2 steps backward.

??? I have known dozens of minimum-wage workers with college degrees.
 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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just by opening a business and giving jobs to people with NO skills and no education so they can learn new skills on the job training so they can compete for higher pay jobs in the market is a success in my opinion. That's better than welfare.

If you are stuck at MIN wage for a while that means you aren't learning any skills to move up.....who's fault is that? If you start at Mcdonalds as a burger flipper and don't want to learn any new skills on the job training to move up within the company, who's fault is that?


Government shouldn't dictate wages in the private sector. The free market and demand does that.

Or it could be that your workplace doesn't have a dynamic advancement path; I had a manager stuck in his job for the next 20 years (until retirement) and the only promotion available was to his job.
 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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illegally? Don't think so. When was slavery illegal before the civil war?.....better do some more research.
You're right, it was made illegal a few years after the Civil War started, though before then several restrictions had been put in place.
 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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tell us why poor people can't move from poor class to middle class? they don't have enough education or enough skills to move up for many reasons. Drug addiction, single parent home, no/bad education, no work ethic.

Raising the MIN wage on the poor won't do anything. The cost of living will go up, that's one step forward and 2 steps backward.
Except that the minimum wage isn't directly connected to the cost of living.
 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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the north could care less about black slaves. The Abolitionists were a minority in the U.S. The civil war wasn't fought over slavery.
Its true that the civil war wasnt fought over slavery, but slavery was on its way out the door at the time state by state.
 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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illegally? Don't think so. When was slavery illegal before the civil war?.....better do some more research.
Slavery was indeed becoming illegal state by state prior to the Civil War.

Do research on things like the Northwest Ordinance
 
Old 01-03-2014, 09:47 PM
 
Location: DFW
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You can certainly tell who around here is working Minimum Wage jobs past their teens and need a raise.

Too bad those bad career decisions didn't lead to a better job.

Let's just ban anyone over 21 and under 62 from working at MW Jobs.
 
Old 01-03-2014, 10:01 PM
 
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You can certainly tell who around here is working Minimum Wage jobs past their teens and need a raise.

Too bad those bad career decisions didn't lead to a better job.

Let's just ban anyone over 21 and under 62 from working at MW Jobs.
So it's a bad career decision to work for minimum wage. Unlike what republicans say....no matter how hard and how determined some work to better themselves they will never get ahead.
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