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Old 01-05-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Harbor Springs, Michigan
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They've probably moved on to other drugs.
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Drop in cocaine, rise in meth. Also apparently heroin is struggling back up.

^^^This ... swings and roundabouts users don't stop using

 
Old 01-05-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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the reasons an illegal drug has a decline in usage are many, so no one reason can be pointed to. heroin went through its decline a couple of decades ago, it lost ground to cocaine in fact.
Heroin use is actually on the rise, mostly in the middle class. My son worked at a rehab center for the last five years and they saw more people addicted to heroin than any other drug.

According to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, heroin use in America is up 75 percent between 2007 and 2011. Deaths and overdoses are also on the rise. Many heroin addicts start on prescription pain killers prescribed for minor injuries. When they run out of their prescription, they often turn to heroin because it’s cheaper and easier to get. One Oxycontin pill can cost up to $80 and may only last a few hours whereas $100 worth of heroin can last several days.

Heroin Use, Deaths On The Rise In Middle Class America « CBS Denver

Please note, OP, that many heroin addicts start out with prescription drugs. In all of your crusading against pot and other illegal drugs, you never condemn big pharma for the huge role they play in addicting millions of Americans every year.

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Old 01-05-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Meanwhile more people are overdosing on legal drugs than any other drug in our nation's history-legal or illegal.

Molly, Ecstasy, Meth and Heroin use has risen dramatically. And remember, over 60% of the DEAs budget for the War on
"Drugs" is allocated for fighting the marijuana plant-the only schedule 1 drug (and really one of the only substances in general) that cannot cause death yet is a schedule 1 drug (cocaine is classified as less dangerous as a Schedule 2).

You're going to have to do a much better job than this to recruit anyone else into your sick way of thinking, Finn.


Overdose Death Rate Surges, Legal Drugs Are Mostly to Blame | Alternet
 
Old 01-05-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Could it be that less people are picking up the habit because supply is down?

The study says: A US-Colombian partnership has contributed to a 44 percent drop in the capacity for pure cocaine production in the Andean region since 2001, according to July’s annual estimate by the White House’s Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP). In addition, interceptions along trafficking routes by the Coast Guard and Defense Department have decreased the amount of cocaine entering the country, the ONDCP reports.
If supply is down it is because the sellers have found something easier and more profitable to sell, not because of any action by a LEO for the DEA.

If the supply really is down, the addicts will simply shift to a different drug to satisfy the craving. A heroin user, for example, may use methadone, dilaudid, morphine, or any of a number of high-level opiate preparations if heroin is not available on the street. Some are natural and organic, some are gotten with scrip, but all of them serve the same purpose. It just takes a working knowledge of practical pharmaceutical knowledge, but you pick that up on the street really quickly.

When I was using I sold to support my habit. If my drug of choice was hard to get the price went up and I sold something else so I could buy it. I might sell weed one week and pills the next, depending on what was available. that was all local, however, and when I heard about a bust in town i knew what the market was going to be in the near future and planned accordingly. If I already had a supply of what was busted on hand, my prices went up. But there was always plenty of stuff available, even if you couldn't always get what you wanted on demand. The narcs never scratched the surface.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Not a good time to throw in the towel and admit defeat, like so many pro-drug people day we should do.

Cocaine use: Will the factors behind its steady decline continue? - CSMonitor.com

Cocaine use and a host of problems associated with the drug have been declining steadily in the United States in recent years – with at least a 40 percent drop in people using cocaine since 2006.

U.S. drug use: Cocaine in steady decline

“I’ve never seen such a rapid decline for such an addictive drug,” says Peter Reuter, a public-policy professor and drug-economy expert at the University of Maryland in College Park.

Some supply-side factors, as well as demand-side issues, have contributed to the downward trend, according to medical, academic, and drug-policy experts.




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Where is the Money Going? - Dramatic Drop in Cocaine Use in U.S. - AllGov - News

The United States has experienced a significant decline in cocaine use in recent years.

From 2006 to 2011, the number of cocaine users in the U.S. declined 40%, according to the White House’s Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP).

Seven years ago, there were 2.4 million cocaine users in the U.S. By 2011, that number had fallen to 1.4 million.

The country also witnessed a drop in the number of first-time users of the drug (from one million in 2002 to 670,000 in 2011). The number of cocaine addicts also fell, from 1.7 million in 2006 to 800,000 in 2011.

“I’ve never seen such a rapid decline for such an addictive drug,” Peter Reuter, a public-policy professor and drug-economy expert at the University of Maryland in College Park, told The Christian Science Monitor.

just great!!!! less coke addicts equals more meth addicts and big pharma opiate addicts. that's it bud, they just traded coke for meth and pharm opiates the cheaper way more dangerous drugs..
 
Old 01-05-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Heroin use is actually on the rise, mostly in the middle class. My son worked at a rehab center for the last five years and they saw more people addicted to heroin than any other drug.

According to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, heroin use in America is up 75 percent between 2007 and 2011. Deaths and overdoses are also on the rise. Many heroin addicts start on prescription pain killers prescribed for minor injuries. When they run out of their prescription, they often turn to heroin because it’s cheaper and easier to get. One Oxycontin pill can cost up to $80 and may only last a few hours whereas $100 worth of heroin can last several days.

Heroin Use, Deaths On The Rise In Middle Class America « CBS Denver

Please note, OP, that many heroin addicts start out with prescription drugs. In all of your crusading against pot and other illegal drug, you never condemn big pharma for the huge role they play in addicting millions of Americans every year.
true, heroin use has been on the rise for several years now in fact. and though cocaine use is going down now, it to will make a comeback in the future. most drugs go through this cycle from time to time.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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^^^This ... swings and roundabouts users don't stop using
Yes but, the Government determines what shall be popular.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Has restricting supply resulted in an increase in a substitute drug line Crystal Meth? Or did excessive use just kill off the addicts resulting in decreased demand?
 
Old 01-05-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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Could it be that less people are picking up the habit because supply is down?

The study says: A US-Colombian partnership has contributed to a 44 percent drop in the capacity for pure cocaine production in the Andean region since 2001, according to July’s annual estimate by the White House’s Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP). In addition, interceptions along trafficking routes by the Coast Guard and Defense Department have decreased the amount of cocaine entering the country, the ONDCP reports.

the reason coke use is down is because their is a snortgasborg of other way more evil cheaper drugs than cocaine..

simple
 
Old 01-05-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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true, heroin use has been on the rise for several years now in fact. and though cocaine use is going down now, it to will make a comeback in the future. most drugs go through this cycle from time to time.
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