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How many people do you have to catch stealing books before you decide it's time to put in place the means to stop them from stealing books ?
Well if it happens less than 1% of the time and we typically catch those that steel books, then it doesnt make sense to waste money on photo ID cards for every one that comes through the door.
Another example of my second point. Actual proof that dead people have cast ballots has been posted on this thread. Instead of just 6 as you stated would indicate a problem worth fixing, 2600 votes were found.
This tends to be common when people claim that their are all these fraudulent votes and police actually investigate the situation.
"A year and a half after a zombie voter fever fell over Republicans in campaign mode, a state police investigation found no indication that anyone purposefully cast a ballot using the name of a dead person in South Carolina. - See more at: http://www.free-times.com/blogs/18-months-later-sc-law-enforcement-closes-case-on-zombie-voters-finds-no#sthash.YztOMz01.dpuf"
So your lack of proof is a good example? It would be like me saying you steal books from the library, but I have no proof that you do, nor do I have any information about how many books are stolen each year. Come back when you have factual data to use to combat voter fraud.
You still appear unable to produce any evidence that the phony voter problem exists...
No it isn't, he specifically said he didn't know how many books were being stolen. With that qualification it's an apt comparison to voter fraud since we have no clue how many fraudulent votes are being cast.
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You still appear unable to produce any evidence that the phony voter problem exists...
We know that it exists, that is undeniable. The only thing that is debatable here is the extent and that is something neither of us can prove since we don't have the means.
Again we can look at possible indicators such as the Pew study citing 24 million invalid or significantly inaccurate voter registrations. Those aren't all frauds but how many are? You don't know, I don't know but the point is the potential is enormous.
No it isn't, he specifically said he didn't know how many books were being stolen. With that qualification it's an apt comparison to voter fraud since we have no clue how many fraudulent votes are being cast.
We know that it exists, that is undeniable. The only thing that is debatable here is the extent and that is something neither of us can prove since we don't have the means.
Again we can look at possible indicators such as the Pew study citing 24 million invalid or significantly inaccurate voter registrations. Those aren't all frauds but how many are? You don't know, I don't know but the point is the potential is enormous.
Comeon...that sentence began with...
"It would be like me saying"
Nope. Without an indication of the occasional incident caught by the authorities the projection would be the frequency is tiny to non-existent.
I see nothing wrong with fixing the problems identified in the Pew study but that is not what the right is trying to implement. In fact there appears to be no interest in fixing voting problems...only in voter ID.
Nope. Without an indication of the occasional incident caught by the authorities the projection would be the frequency is tiny to non-existent.
How many people go through stops signs vs. how many are caught? Suggesting an unknown total can be indicated by the amount of people caught is ridiculous. I'm also going to add this isn't exactly a high priotity crime where LE is actively attempting to find and prosecute illegal voters.
Pay attention. I long ago agreed that the dead vote in Chicago and other places. But that is not done by someone impersonating the dead one. It is done by wholesale packing of the ballot box before or after the election - not by people showing up to vote in a dead persons stead.
The issue is would it be prevented by voter ID. And the answer to Chicago is no.
When I die I intend to have my gravestone engraved with the message "Votes Republican" to keep the Democrats from getting any funny ideas.
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