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That particular ID is for voting only, you're not going to get on an airplane with it. You need a BC for the real thing which can also be obtained for free if you need it for voting.
Is it a government issued photo ID that officially vouches for the identity of the person in the photo? Yes. Unless you have a link that says that state photo IDs are not sufficient to enter the state house, or get on an airplane, I'd have to think they would be acceptable.
The activist courts routinely go well beyond that, and you know it.
It's like an argument from ignorance, if we do not have a system in place to sufficiently prevent illegal voting from happening, then how can we prove it is not happening?
Well damn, the GOP has been trying its hardest with as much money and time as its got to uncover this massive fraud, and they still can't find anything.
Personally, I'm quite confident in the GOP's ability to uncover this evil practice if it actually exists. Aren't you?
I hate to break it to you, but the political parties have the constitutionally protected right to determine who votes in their primaries. So sayeth the Supreme Court in California Democratic Party v. Jones, 530 U.S. 567 (2000).
In the General Election people can vote for any of the candidates, obviously. However, it is up to each political party to determine who will be their candidate. If the GOP only want to allow registered Republicans and registered Independents to vote in their primary to determine their candidate, they have that right. Conversely, if the GOP want to allow all registered voters to vote in their primary, they have that right as well. Each political party decides. It is not something the State can dictate.
You aren't breaking anything to me. I am not talking about primaries.
There is no good reason to have political parties in control of voter registration period.
The chances for bad incentives are very obvious.
If you are a political party and you realize that if certain people vote, you are more likely to lose, then it becomes very natural to construct and expand voting laws to make it more difficult for those voters to vote.
This is the problem in a nutshell.
There is no problem being solved by expanding government power over who votes. NONE. There is very little voter fraud. Voter fraud has been investigated by many different states and nationally and there just isn't that much to justify these new laws.
These state government's expansion of voting laws only exist to limit who votes. This is so obvious to anyone who wants to deal with objective reality.
The fact that conservatives support this needless expansion of government power over one of the fundamental rights when there is no reason that expansion of government power, confirms the fear and hatred I believe rests in the hearts of many conservatives about their fellow Americans.
Well damn, the GOP has been trying its hardest with as much money and time as its got to uncover this massive fraud, and they still can't find anything.
Personally, I'm quite confident in the GOP's ability to uncover this evil practice if it actually exists. Aren't you?
The ONLY way to determine if this is actually happening is to check the ID of the people voting. Even so there are a huge number of indications that it is very probably happening. They have been REPEATEDLY posted and ignored.
Basically those the oppose are following a argumentum ad ignorantiam type fallacy. Voting fraud doesn't exits because there is no proof it exist. Yet the proof doesn't exist because because they block all attempts to actually put measures in place that would detect that voting fraud is occurring.
Their argument is equivalent to stating the house with smoke pouring out the windows is not on fire. A logical action would be to walk up to a window and look inside to see if it was truly on fire. However, they state - No you can't look into the windows to check if it's on fire because the house isn't on fire.
The smoke pouring out the windows are the hundred of cases of voter fraud relating to dead people voting, absentee ballot fraud, and million of inaccurate voting records, looking in the window is voter ID, and prevent the logical action is blocking the voter ID laws.
There are too many people posting here that refuse to think outside of what there party tell them. The Democrats tell them that voter fraud does occur, so they ignore all the reports and convictions showing voter fraud is occurring. The Democrats tell them that getting an ID is hard; so they ignore the extremely low requirements to get one. The Democrats tell them that people can't go in a cast fraudulent ballots, so they ignore the investigation were people did exactly that repeatedly.
The ONLY way to determine if this is actually happening is to check the ID of the people voting. Even so there are a huge number of indications that it is very probably happening. They have been REPEATEDLY posted and ignored.
Basically those the oppose are following a argumentum ad ignorantiam type fallacy. Voting fraud doesn't exits because there is no proof it exist. Yet the proof doesn't exist because because they block all attempts to actually put measures in place that would detect that voting fraud is occurring.
Their argument is equivalent to stating the house with smoke pouring out the windows is not on fire. A logical action would be to walk up to a window and look inside to see if it was truly on fire. However, they state - No you can't look into the windows to check if it's on fire because the house isn't on fire.
The smoke pouring out the windows are the hundred of cases of voter fraud relating to dead people voting, absentee ballot fraud, and million of inaccurate voting records, looking in the window is voter ID, and prevent the logical action is blocking the voter ID laws.
Citations please. 10 dead people out of millions of voters in Texas is statistically irrelevant.
Otherwise you're inventing "smoke" in order to rig the elections in your favor.
Citations please. 10 dead people out of millions of voters in Texas is statistically irrelevant.
Otherwise you're inventing "smoke" in order to rig the elections in your favor.
Period.
If that is the case, then looking in the window would also resolve show that.
If fraud is not occurring, then all voter ID would do is show that fraud is not occurring. At least not while the ID are being check.
The whole debate reminds me of a high school party:
Police: It looks like there are some underage drinkers in there.
Teenage Host: No there's not, everyone said they were over 21.
Police: Did not check any ID'S.
Teenage Host: Of course not, that would have been a hassle. They said they were over 21.
Police: The cars in front all have parking passes from the local high school.
Teenage Host: So, that doesn't prove anything.
Police: That guy over there is wearing a high school letter jacket and that person is wear a high school uniform.
Teenage Host: So, that doesn't prove anything.
Police: Don't you also play on the high school [sport] team?
Teenage Host: So, that doesn't prove anything.
Citations please. 10 dead people out of millions of voters in Texas is statistically irrelevant.
Otherwise you're inventing "smoke" in order to rig the elections in your favor.
Period.
Citation have been posted again and again and again and again with a lot more that 10 people sited. Several of the citations have reported numbers thousands. You might want to have your computer check, based on your comment they must be being blocked in some manner.
If that is the case, then looking in the window would also resolve show that.
If fraud is not occurring, then all voter ID would do is show that fraud is not occurring. At least not while the ID are being check.
The whole debate reminds me of a high school party:
Police: It looks like there are some underage drinkers in there.
Teenage Host: No there's not, everyone said they were over 21.
Police: Did not check any ID'S.
Teenage Host: Of course not, that would have been a hassle. They said they were over 21.
Police: The cars in front all have parking passes from the local high school.
Teenage Host: So, that doesn't prove anything.
Police: That guy over there is wearing a high school letter jacket and that person is wear a high school uniform.
Teenage Host: So, that doesn't prove anything.
Police: Don't you also play on the high school [sport] team?
Teenage Host: So, that doesn't prove anything.
Yep, all voter IDs do is give you a false sense of security that it is somehow preventing fraud.
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