Bill Nye the Science Guy vs Ken Ham Young Earth Creationist 'debate' (kids, document)

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by daylux

How noble.

Ham probably just wants to educate others on creationism, the dishonesty being taught about evolution, and through that lead others to salvation.

If it is avoiding death you are talking about then there is no salvation...Our final choice will be rot in the ground or burn in a furnace....

Could you please point out what is being taught about evolution that is dishonest....

[daylux]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

If it is avoiding death you are talking about then there is no salvation...Our final choice will be rot in the ground or burn in a furnace....

Could you please point out what is being taught about evolution that is dishonest....

Prove it.

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by daylux

Prove it.

Lol....You are the one with the fantasy, so the burden of proof is in your court. While you are at it please answer my question..........

Could you please point out what is being taught about evolution that is dishonest....

[daylux]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

Lol....You are the one with the fantasy, so the burden of proof is in your court. While you are at it please answer my question..........

Could you please point out what is being taught about evolution that is dishonest....

This is a cop out.

Just admit you can't prove it.

[stoutboy]

The very fact that charlatan creationism can even share the same stage with evolution as a serious topic for debate only shows how low-brow public discourse has fallen in our country. This crazy anti-intellectual streak will eventually be our undoing. We can and do import all the science brains we need at this point, primarily from India and China, but eventually we'll have dumbed down too much to lure them here anymore.

[weltschmerz]

Originally Posted by daylux

This is a cop out.

Just admit you can't prove it.

Lol! Just admit that YOU can't prove it. The burden of proof lies with you, my friend, not atheists.

[daylux]

Originally Posted by weltschmerz

Lol! Just admit that YOU can't prove it. The burden of proof lies with you, my friend, not atheists.

I can admit it. How about you? The fact is, we don't know and are both going on faith, not proof (since we can't know until we die).

I John 5:13 Let me correct that, I do know (because of my faith).

[weltschmerz]

Originally Posted by daylux

I can admit it. How about you? The fact is, we don't know and are both going on faith, not proof (since we can't know until we die).

I won't know even after I die. I will simply wink out of existence. So will you, but if wishful thinking makes you feel better, more power to you.

[Seabass Inna Bun]

Originally Posted by daylux

How noble.

Oh, it's nothing.

Ham probably just wants to educate others on creationism, the dishonesty being taught about evolution, and through that lead others to salvation.

No no. "Intelligent Design".

I wonder if it occured to him (or any of you) that even if there was an intelligent force that invented the universe, there's nothing that says your religion (whatever it is) has anything to do with it. What if this god of yours isn't really yours, all that Christianity stuff is just a story, there is no salvation, and this intelligent designer couldn't care less about you or your imaginary soul?

Has this occured to you, or are you just trying to push your particular fable of choice on us and pretending it has merit?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun

No no. "Intelligent Design".

Ham is a Creationist. He disagrees with Intelligent Design because it neither asserts that the universe and all living things were created, nor names a designer.