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Old 02-14-2014, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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That is a great rebuttal to Chad3's post. He doesn't mention that in his first term, Obama spent more money than all presidents we've had combined.
Maybe because it is not true.

CBO | Historical Budget Data

Budget spending 2009 through 2013: 17,560.2 billion
Budget spending 2001 thorugh 2008: 19,164.7 billion
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:44 AM
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Many politicians these days who are GOP hopefuls have use various terms defining themselves as; outsiders , outside of Washington , Mavericks, but when Barack got elected he was criticized for being just that. It seems that Republicans and Democrats were looking for the same thing? Hillary wasn't even close.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Obama is also the "best" at the most important thing for becoming president, and that's raising campaign money.

Obama Campaign Fundraising Best In History
2012 Presidential Race | OpenSecrets


You said "Obama sucks mightily at doing the job", but what planet do you live on?

Obama has cut GW Bush's deficits and debt growth rate in half.
http://www.skymachines.com/US-Nation...ental-Term.htm

Obama made the world love us so much they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize.
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 to President Barack Obama - Press Release

And Obama has real conservatives giving him the thumbs up.
Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes


But most importantly Obama stopped the following $6.6 trillion dollars from being added to our deficits and national debt.

Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress



If Obama uses his campaigning and fund raising skills, to help put another democrat in the White House in the next election, I will consider him to be one of the greatest presidents of my lifetime.

But until then he's doing a good enough job.
And none of that addresses how he won over Hillary in 2008.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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HRC gave birth to the birther movement in a last ditch effort .....
wrong.

HRC never had anything to do with birtherism and the few of her supporters that did buy into it, the PUMAs, didn't get involved till well after it's inception.

see:

» The Secret Origin of the Birthers Birth Of A Notion
Barackryphal: Secret Origin, Part 2
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why Did The Democrat Party In 2008 Thow The Alleged Experienced Hillary Under The Bus For Inexperienced Barack Obama

Just to show people like you that we could beat the Republican Party with anybody. Even a freshman, black senator with absolutely no experience in government. Then just to rub your nose in the crap we scraped off our boots, we ran the same guy again and beat you worse than the first time.
Come 2016, we'll bring out the big guns and whip your butts again for the next 8 years.
The electorate doesn't like the new republican brand and what they're selling.
As usual, the person who smells the worst is the last one in the room to realize it. The voters don't like the whiff emanating from the republican base. They'd rather vote for anything but.
So after all is said and done. We don't need an agenda to win. We just need to not be you.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Why Did The Democrat Party In 2008 Thow The Alleged Experienced Hillary Under The Bus For Inexperienced Barack Obama

Just to show people like you that we could beat the Republican Party with anybody. Even a freshman, black senator with absolutely no experience in government. Then just to rub your nose in the crap we scraped off our boots, we ran the same guy again and beat you worse than the first time.
Come 2016, we'll bring out the big guns and whip your butts again for the next 8 years.
The electorate doesn't like the new republican brand and what they're selling.
As usual, the person who smells the worst is the last one in the room to realize it. The voters don't like the whiff emanating from the republican base. They'd rather vote for anything but.
So after all is said and done. We don't need an agenda to win. We just need to not be you.
$17 trillion in debt, a printing press, a debt ceiling no one believes in and socializing and subsidizing a greater portion of the population each year cannot go on indefinitely.

Furthering social justice while ignoring the economics will hurt the entire country in the long run.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:31 PM
 
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Yes, isn't it Ladies first.

I guess having a Black president is seen by the Libots as being even more PC than having a Girly??????????
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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It is a question that baffles many. Hillary Clinton was the golden girl of the democrat party in the 2008 election. She had been first lady, she had proposed universal healthcare under her husbands term as president and she was a senator from New York. But with all her alleged experience that she had that would make her president, according to democrats and the media, they decided to throw her under the bus for a inexperienced candidate who had zero executive experience making good policy, balancing budgets or even running a business. What was the true reason Hillary was thrown under the bus for a junior senator with zero executive experience?
Because she is a she. They knew that a certain percent of voters would not vote republican because Palin was on the ticket. If there were two women on the ticket, gender gets tossed. There are some people who would simply never vote for a woman. There are also some people who would never vote for a black man. They gave them a choice between the two knowing that a man will beat a woman every time. In short, it fit their agenda. It allowed them to push an inexperienced black man into the white house. I'm sure the puppet masters see his inexperience as an asset. It's much easier to control someone who doesn't know what he's doing.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Yes, isn't it Ladies first.

I guess having a Black president is seen by the Libots as being even more PC than having a Girly??????????
I remember learning in one of my psych classes that when it comes to leadership the preference is white male, black male, white female, black female. If Barack had been Barika the republicans would have won in spite of Palin being on the ticket.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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Because she is a she. They knew that a certain percent of voters would not vote republican because Palin was on the ticket. If there were two women on the ticket, gender gets tossed.
Who do you mean 'they'? Hillary and Palin never campaigned at the same time. Hillary started campaigning in January 2007. She bowed out in April 2008. Palin didn't come on the scene until August 29, 2008.
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