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Old 02-14-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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It is a question that baffles many. Hillary Clinton was the golden girl of the democrat party in the 2008 election. She had been first lady, she had proposed universal healthcare under her husbands term as president and she was a senator from New York. But with all her alleged experience that she had that would make her president, according to democrats and the media, they decided to throw her under the bus for a inexperienced candidate who had zero executive experience making good policy, balancing budgets or even running a business. What was the true reason Hillary was thrown under the bus for a junior senator with zero executive experience?
I think your second sentence partially answers your question, at least for me. I remember how disgusted I was that the whole press corps seemed to decide that Hillary was the next President a year or two before the election. A lot of people were like hold on - this is a Democracy not a Monarchy. The voters get to decide not some talking heads on TV.

So a lot of us were happy when someone arose that could challenge her in the election or at least make her a bit more humble. Plus Obama talked of real change.

Now I wish we had elected Hillary instead of Obama. He could have run instead in 2016 with more experience as a Senator or as, who knows Hillary's VP?

Missed opportunity? I think so. But we will never really know.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No. He is definitely monitoring my posts. He only participates in birther threads that I've seen since I registered and by him responding in a non-birther thread to my post questioning Obama's grades confirms it.
Check that paranoia. Maybe he just does a search for birther stuff.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:47 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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She lost because Obama dominated the youth and black votes because he connected better with them given his age and of course ethnicity.

Playing the sax on saturday night live or shooting baskets on the court connect you with youth voters. Young voters looked at Hillary like she was going to offer them some penny candy and show them pictures of her cats.
OH, it was mean but made me laugh anyway.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Sinkholeville
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'What Difference At This Point Does It Make?!

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Old 02-14-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Who do you mean 'they'? Hillary and Palin never campaigned at the same time. Hillary started campaigning in January 2007. She bowed out in April 2008. Palin didn't come on the scene until August 29, 2008.
The dems would never have allowed both to campaign at the same time. It would have taken gender off the table.

They are whoever pushed an inexperienced unknown like obummer into the white house. Palin was a liability as long as the dems didn't have a woman on their ticket too because a certain percent of voters won't vote for a woman and, if my psych professor is to believed, many Americans would prefer a black man to any female.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Sinkholeville
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I comprehended your question. What difference does it make?
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As Hillary would say what difference does it make now?
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All I can say is "what difference does it make?
She is stuck with that as her campaign slogan.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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Hillary is a lot like the great and powerful Oz. You're conditioned to expect this big impressive figure, but once you start to look a little closer you begin to realize there's just nothing there. I wouldn't be surprised if she loses again.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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It is a question that baffles many. Hillary Clinton was the golden girl of the democrat party in the 2008 election. She had been first lady, she had proposed universal healthcare under her husbands term as president and she was a senator from New York. But with all her alleged experience that she had that would make her president, according to democrats and the media, they decided to throw her under the bus for a inexperienced candidate who had zero executive experience making good policy, balancing budgets or even running a business. What was the true reason Hillary was thrown under the bus for a junior senator with zero executive experience?
you're confused.

Obama played nothing fair.

He engaged in every kind of election fraud or manipulation he could - that's why Hillary lost.

Obama's from Chicago... You seem to forget that nobody who wins in Chicago does so by a fair vote. The party and the politicians have honed manipulation, fraud, and theft to a high art.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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you're confused.

Obama played nothing fair.

He engaged in every kind of election fraud or manipulation he could - that's why Hillary lost.

Obama's from Chicago... You seem to forget that nobody who wins in Chicago does so by a fair vote. The party and the politicians have honed manipulation, fraud, and theft to a high art.
Do you think Obama and the democrats used his skin color to shield him from political attacks?
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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you're confused.

Obama played nothing fair.

He engaged in every kind of election fraud or manipulation he could - that's why Hillary lost.

Obama's from Chicago... You seem to forget that nobody who wins in Chicago does so by a fair vote. The party and the politicians have honed manipulation, fraud, and theft to a high art.
That's really big news! I'm sure you've got lot's of links that describe the fraud and manipulation Obama used to win. I'M sure you'll be thrilled to have the opportunity to post them.
Thanks!
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