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Old 02-14-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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If Adam Carrola had a clue as to the reality of the history of child rearing he would know the "mommy"+"daddy" equation is a recent model.

For EONS in natural human history, Mommy/daddy relationships did not exist. That is right kids...did not even ******* exist.

Why am I even arguing with Adam Carrola...
What is "natural human history"???

Wait....so are you a fundamentalist or not a fundamentalist? Are we bound to historical norms or not? What is the significance of a nuclear family being a "recent model"?

 
Old 02-14-2014, 11:28 AM
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What amazes me is that so many people have such a tenuous grasp on the notion of CONSENT.
Have you ever touched an animal ?
If yes, did you think that the animal consented to be touched ? Was it important for you make sure that the animal consented to your touch ? How could you tell ? How do you know that an animal either consents or at least doesn't mind ?
 
Old 02-14-2014, 11:32 AM
hvl
 
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Funny.
As far as I know, most hunter gatherer groups are organized into families.
Mothers and fathers take care of their kids (not necessarily in the same way). Some may not have formal notions of marriage but most human populations have the notion of people being coupled together. It's true that in a lot of people the family is more than nuclear, as it includes relatives.

Still, everyone on earth has words for the concepts of fathers, mothers, sons and daughters.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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It's bizarre that people are using the 'unable to give consent' argument for sex/marriage between inanimate objects, animals and children. How about it's objectively and morally wrong?

There is an objective morality, but they don't want to confront that so they use the consent argument.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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It's bizarre that people are using the 'unable to give consent' argument for sex/marriage between inanimate objects, animals and children. How about it's objectively and morally wrong?

There is an objective morality, but they don't want to confront that so they use the consent argument.
There is no objective morality. When it comes to legal contracts LEGAL CONSENT is the only argument.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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It's bizarre that people are using the 'unable to give consent' argument for sex/marriage between inanimate objects, animals and children. How about it's objectively and morally wrong?
Sure, I'd have to agree that marriage between people and animals, children or inanimate objects is objectively and morally wrong. No argument here.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 01:50 PM
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There is no objective morality. When it comes to legal contracts LEGAL CONSENT is the only argument.
Isn't slavery illegal whether the parties consent or not ? It's a type of employment contract that's deemed illegal no matter the circumstances.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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Isn't slavery illegal whether the parties consent or not ? It's a type of employment contract that's deemed illegal no matter the circumstances.
Slavery doesn't involve consent.
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