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Old 02-13-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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I guess our society is redefining marriage. Somehow the proponents of gay marriage have convinced us that we're "no longer restricting gays from marrying" and we're "extending a right to a group that was previously denied it" and "recognizing all loving relationships" and whatever. Such loaded terms. Let's admit that defining marriage as "union of 2 consenting adults" is just as arbitrary as "union of 2 consenting adults, 1 of them male and the other female." After all, if being more inclusive is always better, than we should change it to "union of N consenting adults" or "union of N consenting sentient beings." After all, why are we denying dolphins the right to marry humans? Dolphins are self-aware and can certainly have loving relationships with their human trainers.

Don't even get me started on gay adoption lol. Adam Carolla explained my views perfectly:


Adam Carolla on Gay Parents vs Straight Parents - YouTube

 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:10 PM
 
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He's right. Just wait the degenerates will find some way to turn this as well.Always do.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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After all, why are we denying dolphins the right to marry humans? Dolphins are
self-aware and can certainly have loving relationships with their human trainers
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What amazes me is that so many people have such a tenuous grasp on the notion of CONSENT.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What amazes me is that so many people have such a tenuous grasp on the notion of CONSENT.
It is as if it is a foreign word to these people....makes you wonder if their spouses actually consented to their marriages.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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See told you so.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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Ok fine...it's been redefined.

Get over it.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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See told you so.
So what are you gonna do when gay marriage is legal in all 50 states?
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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Of course it's a redefinition. Anytime you change a law, you redefine it. Civil marriage law has been redefined many, many times in US history.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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Ok fine...it's been redefined.
But proponents of gay marriage don't frame it that way. They frame by saying that "2 consenting adults" is the inherently correct definition of marriage and that we've been disenfranchising homosexuals by using a fake definition for thousands of years. Which is silly, but the propaganda worked. Everyone is now convinced that they need to support redefining marriage if they wanted to be on the morally correct side of some new civil rights movement.

The definition "2 consenting adults" is one that people pulled out of their ass.

The definition "1 male and 1 female" is also stupid because the Religious Right says it comes the Bible, which it doesn't.

I'm not sure which side of this debate is stupider in their arguments, but I'm especially annoyed by the pro-gay-marriage side's insistence that the other side is denying them right that they've always deserved.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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But proponents of gay marriage don't frame it that way. They frame by saying that "2 consenting adults" is the inherently correct definition of marriage and that we've been disenfranchising homosexuals by using a fake definition for thousands of years. Which is silly, but the propaganda worked. Everyone is now convinced that they need to support redefining marriage if they wanted to be on the morally correct side of some new civil rights movement.

The definition "2 consenting adults" is one that people pulled out of their ass.

The definition "1 male and 1 female" is also stupid because the Religious Right says it comes the Bible, which it doesn't.

I'm not sure which side of this debate is stupider in their arguments, but I'm especially annoyed by the pro-gay-marriage side's insistence that the other side is denying them right that they've always deserved.
Allowing gay marriage doesn't change the meaning of a straight marriage. That is just silly to think that it does.
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