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Old 02-20-2014, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Yep, yah, sure, ya bet'cha. In and then out, never to return.

If that was all they wanted, they could get this type of general info by hiring some people who used to work for CNN or talk to their pals over at NBC
I believe the focus is on local media outlets. I also think they are looking for more then anecdotal stories. You know real research.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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You can find links to the original study that led up to the FCC proposed study at Annenberg site.

USC Annenberg | Dean Wilson, Weil and Ph.D. student Ognyanova present public's critical information needs to FCC

The American public has measurable, significant and unmet information needs at the individual and community level, a team of USC Annenberg researchers concluded at a June 26 meeting with the Federal Communications Commission.
It is not the role of the government to determine the "critical information needs" and how to meet them with a free press.

Let's say the federal government determines that there is an "unmet information need," first of all, do you think it's likely to be that Congress or the President has acted in violation of the Consistittion? What type of information do you think they will determine is not getting out? Secondly, once they've made the determination, what do you think they will do with that information? The only useful purpose would be to ensure certain information is being disseminated. Meeting an "unmet information need" will become the catch all purpose for infringing on the free media just like security is for some NSA guy monitoring this post.

The last recommendation was this:
•Develop robust, testable indicators of performance for policy- and community‐relevant evaluation.

What do you think they're going to be testing? It's sort of confusing but it looks like they are talking about setting up testable indicators for how well a media outlet reports what they determine to be relevant. Why?
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Get use to it....for now, the Senate will become more and more involved in the broadcasting through the FCC. Programming will be more educational, informative, and inspiring shows.
This will offend many as it should in a democracy we shouldn't have government control. I believe movements will now start through the country to change things.The states and local governments need to regain their lost power.

We have a struggle to win fellow Republicans and Democrats.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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America, as we once knew it, is dead. If you think it exists it's all in your head.

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith;

From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."

The USA Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2012

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota ,points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by:

Obama: 19 Romney: 29

Square miles of land won by:

Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:

Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:

Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country."

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase..

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years. Oh how will the American left cheer its demise!
I don't think that I have ever seen a higher rep to posting ratio and it is obvious by this post as to why!

Great post!
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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America, as we once knew it, is dead. If you think it exists it's all in your head.

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith;

From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."

The USA Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2012

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota ,points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by:

Obama: 19 Romney: 29

Square miles of land won by:

Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:

Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:

Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country."

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase..

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years. Oh how will the American left cheer its demise!
Interesting and informative. Especially the demographics of the voters for each candidate.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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40 years ago one person pretty much controlled the news and what we would see on a daily basis. Walter Cronkite. Today you can get on the internet and get news from all over the world.
Who was an admitted communist!
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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In Soviet Russia there were two television channels.

Channel 1 consisted of nothing but programming made to praise the Party and the glory of communism.

Channel 2 had a man telling you to turn back to channel 1.

(bears repeating .. dont'cha think?)
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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In many communities, one company controls two, three and even four stations — and airs the same news programming on all of these outlets.
Do you think the gov't is going to level the field by rebalancing the news reporting so that liberal stations include sufficient opposing views? Or is this an effort to get the government's agenda before the people to "program" them to think favorably of it? There are terms for that, such as propagandizing and brainwashing.


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I believe the study had researchers in newsrooms for a month. This would allow the researchers to examine the editorial processes being used when determining what was broadcast. The FCC is, as part of this study, not purposing any long term on site monitoring of the editorial process.
Editorial processes? Editorial processes? What business does the government have examining the editorial processes of anyone? Would you like your editorial (opinion) process monitored by the government?

And when the government comes up with the results of its study, what will be the next step? "Suggesting" and "encouraging" certain news direction and content? Perhaps even incentivizing? Hmmm.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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God forbid that the FCC might sponsor a study demonstrating to what extent that access to news and information is increasingly controlled by a few corporate organizations and individuals. Just not ignore the fact that in certain markets the take over is virtually complete with little or no access to local content or coverage of local issues.

You think I'm the blind one?
Hitler thrived on ignorant people such as yourself, now comrade obama is doing the same...
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That's not likely to be revealed by the cameras and secondly, it's not the role of the government to determine who controls the news organizations and whether or not they cover local issues. If they wanted to demonstrate that, they could simply reveal who owns what networks, it's public information. They could determine local content by studying what's on tv versus having a camera in the newsroom.

The purpose of the CIN, according to the FCC, is to ferret out information from television and radio broadcasters about "the process by which stories are selected" and how often stations cover "critical information needs," along with "perceived station bias" and "perceived responsiveness to underserved populations."



The contractor for this FCC intrusion into freedom of speech, and ask these questions is Social Solutions International.

Here is how they describe themselves on their web site:

Social Solutions is a research and evaluation firm dedicated to the creation of positive change for underserved populations. Our work touches those in our community and in countries worldwide. We are a mission-driven organization that believes that superior science can improve the world

So what do they know about news rooms? Nada. The people running the show here at the FCC are as stupid as the ACA.
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