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Old 03-18-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I hear this response a lot. Its wrong. Its right up there with "home prices will never fall, because they have never done so in the past here".

This time is different. A farrier losing his job, could pretty easily go get a job selling a car. The changes coming mean that all of the other low end non-trained jobs....arent being created-because when they are a computer will do them.

What WILL be created? Things like AI interfacing specialist, requiring 4 years of training, and a higher then average intelligence. Guess what? we're talking about replacing average intelligence people. They arent going to retrain.

This time is different. Those that fail to recognize this and go on like you will cause incredible harm to us as a people.
And while were at it we should get rid of the Internet because it rendered libraries obsolete.

Trying to stop change/progress for fear of the unknown is small minded.

 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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Well one thing is machines breaks down and need to have tech support and maintenance done by humans if they fail so a job in those fields and also a job in the skilled trades is where it is at right now since Heavy Duty Diesel Mechanic can make a lot of money and when a truck or heavy machinery breaks down there are only a handful of people who can work on them and they are in demand and the job is one that won't be going anywhere even if busses and 18-wheelers drive themselves they still need to marinated and fixed by a human.

As for 3D printers it means that small business can prototype and get manufacturing down to a smaller scale and all you have to do is think of t something that has not been invented that well be major breakthrough and sell a lot of units as long as you have the patent to it you are set.

Plus all it means is we will have to adapt to major changes and new markets and jobs will be created that we never even thought about before.
This is so cute.

So the machine breaks down. Lets call it a automated driving diesel truck. The onboard systems report a problem, a SEVERE problem-the vehicle died....IN THE ROAD. And was unable to get to the side. The local PD has a remote quadcopter on the scene within a couple minutes-and the ai confirms the issue. A automated tow truck is sent, and the nearest automated repair facility is assigned the repair job.

The diesel truck is delivered. It is COMPLETELY disassembled at the facility. Every single part is individually tested. Parts that fail are sent for recycling, and replaced. Many are printed on site. The truck is completely reassembled, tested and sent out to pickup its next load.

At no point will a human be involved.

If you think that new jobs will replace all of the jobs lost you are in for a shock.
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Mankind is and always has been its own worst enemy. The only question is at what point will man achieve the technical ability to render himself obsolete.
Our psychopathic obsession with material wealth will in the end be our own demise.
Automation can improve the ability to make money. But it also is a way improve our life as the planet becomes more populated. Do you think we could grow the food needed to feed everyone without automation? Healthcare has been improved dramatically through technology - including automation. Maybe someday we will have surgical machines as used in the movie Prometheus. If they are better than humans - maybe that's OK.
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Bill Gates is retired.
Retired from Microsoft? Kinda.

Not retired from life. He is happily running his philanthropic foundation. He travels the world, meets with world leaders, and closely follows technology and economics. Very qualified to offer an opinion on this topic.
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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Bill Gates in the mid-90's had some super home automation **** the interface looked like windows 7 and media center

i could imagine what his home is like now

he probably got Rosie from the Jetsons making him BLT's
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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And while were at it we should get rid of the Internet because it rendered libraries obsolete.

Trying to stop change/progress for fear of the unknown is small minded.
And nothing in what I said suggested we do so. Fear of the unknown is a GOOD idea-kept us from being eaten by lions and tigers......plan for your fears, and move forward.

Its interesting your take on what I said though. I know we argue about political things-just because we disagree there doesn't mean you should try to misinterpret what I say. Its.....small minded.
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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They depend on consumers, the consumer depends on jobs from them to make money. It's a cycle, if no one has a job the cycle is broken and everyone is screwed. It's going to be an interesting ride but I don't see how our capitalistic society can survive as it stands now.

These predictions have been made in the past but this is completely different scenario than replacing the buggy whip maker. Tech jobs in the robot industry will be plentiful but even those will be replaced. Consider something like the 3-d printer, in the future if you want to buy something you can just download it. Any idea how many jobs that eliminates?
That is why I and millions of other young people in America have tailored our education to focus on the healthcare field. We see it as the one sole industry that machines can't take away from us.
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Bill Gates in the mid-90's had some super home automation **** the interface looked like windows 7 and media center

i could imagine what his home is like now

he probably got Rosie from the Jetsons making him BLT's
Home automation is interesting. I've got some in my home-automated lights etc. But the barrier for it is....cost, complexity, and need. Turns out adding a motion activated timer to your bathroom light SOUNDS awesome. But when it breaks...not so much. Adjusting it so you dont have to wave while sitting on the can...also not so much.

Recording video around your home 24/7-actually useful. When neighbors get their widescreen TV stolen, you kindly offer to show them video of whomever loaded it up in the street. Nice!

Motion activated lights....not as useful as you would hope if you have cats. But occasionally hilarious until you turn it off. Also midnight snack blinding...not as much fun.

automated vacumn cleaners-awesome.

Give me a robot that can pick stuff up, identify it, and clean/wash/put away everything though and I will be a happy camper.
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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That is why I and millions of other young people in America have tailored our education to focus on the healthcare field. We see it as the one sole industry that machines can't take away from us.
LOL. wishful thinking. Japans been creating robots to help the elderly for a while now. IBM's watson is being developed to do pharmaceuticals, and diagnostics.
 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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That is why I and millions of other young people in America have tailored our education to focus on the healthcare field. We see it as the one sole industry that machines can't take away from us.
You're thinking wrong, do you really think the hand of a surgeon can be as precise as a robot? The only thing the mass produced robots are missing is the intelligence and that is not too far off in the distance. You only need to look as far as Watson on Jeopardy to see the future, if you understand the technology behind Watson you'd also realize what an incredible amount of AI that is required.
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