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No doubt it's becoming a police state. Which is why we need to get back to adhering to the US Constitution which is in place to prohibit the government from having too much power over the people.
Thank Bush and his effin Patriot Act. That just HAD to be the brainchild of Darth Cheney, probably in collusion with Rummy. I can picture them rubbing their hands with glee and laughing insanely as they plotted.
Thank Bush and his effin Patriot Act. That just HAD to be the brainchild of Darth Cheney, probably in collusion with Rummy. I can picture them rubbing their hands with glee and laughing insanely as they plotted.
conservatives continue to be the biggest joke on this issue. They were cheerleading the Patriot Act, torture, indefinite detention/Gitmo, an endless War on Terror(terror is a tactic, not an enemy that can actually be defeated) so the President saying we are fighting a War on Terror is a call for endless war, the idea of preemptive war which was the whole idea behind the war on Iraq which GWBush made was we can't wait until a nation is an actual threat because of the potential of a mushroom cloud, he said repeatedly in speeches.
Again all of these horrible authoritarian freedom stealing government style military tactics and conservatives LOVED ALL OF IT.
Heck, people forget I don't but conservatives were openly advocating for racially profiling muslims. Michelle Malkin wrote a book defending the internment of Japanese Americans during WW2 on the cover of the book was a picture of a Japanese terrorist and a Alqueda terrorist.
Her point was very clear we might have to do the same to muslim Americans.
conservatives even used the terrorist attacks to become virulently anti immigrant, that is when all of this border security nonsense came up all in response to justify the War on Terror, because Mexicans coming across the border might be mulsim terrorists.
They pretend and lie now, but back in the not so distant past, they were the biggest cheerleaders for this stuff and still would be if a Republican were in office or if there is another terrorist attack, they'll revert right back to form.
Thank Bush and his effin Patriot Act. That just HAD to be the brainchild of Darth Cheney, probably in collusion with Rummy. I can picture them rubbing their hands with glee and laughing insanely as they plotted.
Didn't support it then, and don't support it now. The question is, why did Obama continue it?
No doubt it's becoming a police state. Which is why we need to get back to adhering to the US Constitution which is in place to prohibit the government from having too much power over the people.
It's been that way since the beginning. Read about "The alien and sedition acts" passed into law by your second president. That act made the USA a police state. The act was later repealed but it set the agenda of every US government since to attempt to take rights away from the citizens.
You know, Your constitution is fine in theory but not in practise. In many ways a law that is not adhered to is worse than no law at all as it creates a situation where reform is impossible. The government of the USA just cherry picks those portions of the constitution it wants to suit it's purposes. The rest of it is just ignored and thrown in the garbage. The constitutional relationship between the several States and the federal government was thrown in the trash heap by Lincoln and the country has been operating in a completely unconstitutional manner ever since.
I believe this should be viewed as a constitutional crisis as it becomes increasingly clear that this state of affairs is leading dysfunctional, ineffective and powerless governance. The gridlock we have seen in the past few administrations and Congress is only going to get worse without a constitutional overhaul that reflects the realities of the 21st century.
We were very fortunate here in Canada to get a brand new constitution in 1982. It took over 50 years of political wrangling to get it done but it's done and my freedoms are totally protected by a very clear, concise and modern document. It's written in such a manner that absolutely minimizes partisan interpretation of the law by the Supreme court Justices. In the USA the partisan divide in the Supreme court makes one wonder if they are reading from the same document.
Didn't support it then, and don't support it now. The question is, why did Obama continue it?
Probably to get some other laws passed. You know, the old 'we'll support what you want to do as long as we get what we want' tactic. That's called compromise, something the cons believe Obama never does.
conservatives continue to be the biggest joke on this issue. They were cheerleading the Patriot Act, torture, indefinite detention/Gitmo, an endless War on Terror(terror is a tactic, not an enemy that can actually be defeated) so the President saying we are fighting a War on Terror is a call for endless war, the idea of preemptive war which was the whole idea behind the war on Iraq which GWBush made was we can't wait until a nation is an actual threat because of the potential of a mushroom cloud, he said repeatedly in speeches.
Please do us all a favor and take your head out fo the sand for once, and stop the leftist propaganda talking points. You're lumping all conservatives together. Now are we talking about those of the GOP, or those who are libertarian and nature? Those who are libertarian in nature did not support any of this, and do not to this day. If you'd take the partisan blinders off, you'd realize that, as well as the fact that both main parties are in support of all that you have mentioned.
Again all of these horrible authoritarian freedom stealing government style military tactics and conservatives LOVED ALL OF IT.
Then that would not make them conservative, now would it?
Heck, people forget I don't but conservatives were openly advocating for racially profiling muslims. Michelle Malkin wrote a book defending the internment of Japanese Americans during WW2 on the cover of the book was a picture of a Japanese terrorist and a Alqueda terrorist.
What was done to the Japanese Americans was indeed injustice. But, since we're drinking the partisan kool aid,....You do forget that at the time this happened on FDR's watch, who was, wait for it... a DEMOCRAT!
Her point was very clear we might have to do the same to muslim Americans.
And I wouldn't support this either.
conservatives even used the terrorist attacks to become virulently anti immigrant, that is when all of this border security nonsense came up all in response to justify the War on Terror, because Mexicans coming across the border might be mulsim terrorists.
Not anti-immigrant. If you wish to come here, do it through the proper channels like others have done, and learn to assimilate, and not expect special treatment. I am however anti- illegal immigrant. If you're not here legally, then you need to leave! Cut off the gravy train, and the free ride that all of the illegal immigrants get when they come here, and they won't have a reason to come here, because they'll have to go through the proper channels.
They pretend and lie now, but back in the not so distant past, they were the biggest cheerleaders for this stuff and still would be if a Republican were in office or if there is another terrorist attack, they'll revert right back to form.
Can't speak for others, but my beliefs have remained pretty consistent. Didn't support those policies then. Don't support them now. So again, more broad generalizations on your part on what you think that all conservatives think.
The US has had a few miscalculations and errors in its history, but perhaps the most impulsive, ill conceived action in modern history has been the election of Obama into the White House.
We have a man in the White House with-
no executive experience
dubious far left and communist associates and role models
very little experience at all in politics
questionable work ethic in previous academic jobs
an unknown academic background which is still hidden from the public
a notion that the US is no better than any other nation
a vow to carry out the "dreams of his father" who was a marxist
The world is a more dangerous place due to the power vacuum provided by a weak leader with no effective foreign policy and "red lines" which are crossed and not questioned. The average American is poorer than in any time, other than the Great Depression.
Didn't support it then, and don't support it now. The question is, why did Obama continue it?
Because a vast majority of right wing voters implicitly supported it. Here in Wisconsin, they voted Sen. Russ Feingold out of office, and he was the lone US senator who dared to vote against the Patriot Act.
Well you are placing full blame on the white man when Africans captured their own and sold them. I would bet that you would embrace the descendant of the people who sold Africans while attacking the other.
What the hell are you talking about? We are talking about America's Worst Mistake. Slavery usually takes the top spot.
And when talk about slavery, we are talking about slavery in the US. Not the origins of slavery, the inception of it, nor the wide practice of it throughout history.
We are talking about the US and it's practice of slavery within the United States of America.
Which was a mistake, that was "corrected" by a bloody war, a few amendments, decades of discriminatory laws against black people, and several civil rights acts.
There are a plethora of things worse than electing Obama twice. Only a twit would see it otherwise.
Slavery originated with the Africans selling their own people into slavery.
Most slaves were treated very well by plantation owners. There is a common misconception they were all treated poorly, starved, & whipped. Writing inaccuracies into history was America's worst mistake.
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