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The libertarian position I've seen, and maybe this isn't ALL Libertarians, is that if you have no welfare state and open borders, the immigration and unemployment issue will naturally work itself out.
I think that's an incredibly naive and destructive position and would bring our institutions to their knees in about 5 years.
I also support social safety nets, so hard core Libertarian ideology doesn't work for me.
I do think that our government should be concerned about ALL of it's citizens first before anyone else, not Mexicans, and not just big business. I support a benevolent policy towards Mexican citizens..ie encouraging the Mexican government to move into the 21st century, not acting as a pressure relief valve for their poor. This country does not need anymore unskilled workers..it needs less and the governments policy should reflect that, not the reverse.
If the country actually NEEDS skilled workers, I support the government allowing that too. But I have first hand experience with this...H1bs are used to pay skilled workers less than citizens in the vast majority of situations, and that practice needs to be stopped immediatley.
Both parties have shown their true colors, they dont give a rats ass about any of us plain and simple. They pander to their big corporate buddies and screw the American people both Left and Right. This government is beyond a disaster , its not even comical anymore to how stupid these idiots can be.
I am sick and tired of being run over by the poor, stupid, uneducated idiots and hicks that inhabit California and New York who, by virtue of their numbers alone, can dictate how the rest of the country behaves.
On the face of it this seems ridiculous: the idea that California could be the poorest State in the US. However, rankings of this kind really do depend on what it is that you measure. So the usual suspects of the Deep South as the poorest places can be true by one measure and not by another.
So it is true that, by one measure, California really is the poorest state:
Yep, the bureau’s “Supplemental Poverty Measure” numbers, culled from 2011 stats, say that …
… California has a whopping poverty rate of 23.5 percent, meaning that nearly one in every four of us is straight up poor.
The Golden State ranks number one in poverty, then, beating out all comers (Washington, D.C. came close with a 23.2 percent rate); Florida ranked second among states.
Yep, they really are that poor and stupid. Poorer than Mississippi, imagine that for a moment. So stupid they entirely miss the point when they refer to the richer state of Mississippi as "flyover".
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Thomas Jefferson
Not sure an according_to_hoyle civil war is in the offing, but an upheaval of some sort is inevitable because welfare states always and everywhere collapse under their own weight, and we are not as special as we like to think we are.
What will happen when the welfare state begins to collapse is the segment of the population who has no clue how to provide for themselves will find their government Robin Hoods are all gone, so they'll either have to learn to do for themselves or do their confiscations directly. Some portion of the takers will become makers for sure, but the majority will resort to direct theft when it all starts going south. When that happens, look for the productive class to fight back directly.
This cycle has repeated so reliably throughout history that Americans are just the latest arrogant people in a long line of arrogant people who were absolutely convinced not only of their superiority, but of their permanency. We'll eventually be just as wrong as every one of them who came before us.
it would be nice if things were better. But they are not. We don't need a civil war we need a constitutional convention. Do it right play the game by the rules.
Not sure an according_to_hoyle civil war is in the offing, but an upheaval of some sort is inevitable because welfare states always and everywhere collapse under their own weight, and we are not as special as we like to think we are.
What will happen when the welfare state begins to collapse is the segment of the population who has no clue how to provide for themselves will find their government Robin Hoods are all gone, so they'll either have to learn to do for themselves or do their confiscations directly. Some portion of the takers will become makers for sure, but the majority will resort to direct theft when it all starts going south. When that happens, look for the productive class to fight back directly.
This cycle has repeated so reliably throughout history that Americans are just the latest arrogant people in a long line of arrogant people who were absolutely convinced not only of their superiority, but of their permanency. We'll eventually be just as wrong as every one of them who came before us.
Add a third who completely inserts their agenda.
The OP is talking about OLIGARCHY, not welfare queens stealing your tax money.
I think the H1B program should be expanded and allow more educated, hardworking, and productive people into this country, thus creating more wealthy, tax revenue, etc. I like that!
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