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Old 05-07-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Because it shows that higher income earners still pay a disproportionately high percentage of the tax revenue even under a flat tax system. Person A paying $100,000 in federal income tax isn't receiving $100,000 in government services and benefits, while person B paying only $3,000 is receiving MORE than that in government services and benefits. Person A is overpaying. Person B isn't even pulling their own weight.

First of all, high-income earners don't need the kind of government services you are talking about.

However, they do disproportionately use other government services, such as air traffic controllers, port authorities, roadways, and transit, etc. Not too many poor people go on vacation, or fly around the country/world for work. I'm sure there are other examples.

Lets see if you can come up with a nice chart showing those statistics.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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First of all, high-income earners don't need the kind of government services you are talking about.

However, they do disproportionately use other government services, such as air traffic controllers, port authorities, roadways, and transit, etc. Not too many poor people go on vacation, or fly around the country/world for work. I'm sure there are other examples.
I sincerely doubt high-income earners use $746 billion worth of federal services and benefits each year, the amount that is spent exclusively on the 80+ federal means-tested social welfare programs. Total annual federal spending is $3.7 trillion. Means-tested social welfare programs alone are over 20% of federal spending every year.

http://www.budget.senate.gov/republi...4-2fd5bcedfeb5

RealClearPolicy - About That $1 Trillion in Welfare Spending

If you have any info stating that high-income earners use $750 billion in federal government services each year, please post a link.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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Which racist beliefs?
The same was about Trent Lott (R) from Ms . Lott Celebrated the 80 birthday of Strom Thurmond(D) and a line was pulled out of context and the Dems successfully force the step down.Trent Lott was a Great Speaker.

John Boehner like or hate is in a very difficult position when we have Reid in the Senate and a President that will not even work with the Peoples House! Racist I do not think so!

This is what Democrats do and destroy people.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I sincerely doubt high-income earners use $746 billion worth of federal services and benefits each year, the amount that is spent exclusively on the 80+ federal means-tested social welfare programs. Total annual federal spending is $3.7 trillion. Means-tested social welfare programs alone are over 20% of federal spending every year.

Your sincere doubt is noted but quite worthless.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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Your sincere doubt is noted but quite worthless.
Not at all. I've posted facts. You've posted only your own unsubstantiated opinion.

Back up your assertions with facts, otherwise we'll all have to conclude that you have NO idea of which you speak and you're merely just another gullible pawn of the left.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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The bulk of voters are morons. How else do you explain a second term of the bumbler in chief?
It also explains how the previous idiot in chief got elected twice.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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The same was about Trent Lott (R) from Ms . Lott Celebrated the 80 birthday of Strom Thurmond(D) and a line was pulled out of context and the Dems successfully force the step down.Trent Lott was a Great Speaker.

John Boehner like or hate is in a very difficult position when we have Reid in the Senate and a President that will not even work with the Peoples House! Racist I do not think so!

This is what Democrats do and destroy people.
Please, the House has proven time and time again that they do not want to work with Dems. Who coined the phrase "our main goal is to make Obama a one term president"? I will give you a hint, it wasn't a Dem.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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Please, the House has proven time and time again that they do not want to work with Dems.
You have that exactly backwards. Obama and the Dems had NO interest whatsoever in working across the aisle from day one of Obama's presidency :

Obama to GOP: "I Won" - Washington Wire
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Not at all. I've posted facts. You've posted only your own unsubstantiated opinion.

Back up your assertions with facts, otherwise we'll all have to conclude that you have NO idea of which you speak and you're merely just another gullible pawn of the left.
The facts you posted do not tell the entire story.

Do you really think the wealthy use food stamps and welfare?

Why would you use such a skewed chart?

In any case, you seem to be proposing, not a flat tax, but an equal tax, regardless of income.
That would work out great, wouldn't it?!

Or, maybe the poor and lower middle class should pay MORE tax, since they (according to your chart) use more government services.

See how silly that is?
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Where are all of those stupid people located?
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