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Old 05-25-2014, 09:56 PM
 
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Four pages in and they still can't articulate what liberties have been taken away or what they are willing to die for.
Perhaps the o.p. should have said which liberties he feels are being "encroached" on. I already posted 2 reasons some people in the country might willingly die for.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:57 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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But the beauty of it is, there are alot of people who are no longer asking for "permission". Some don't care what the government does or does not allow.

Raising hand proudly!


the question is, who will die when they use force because you and I didn't ask their permission?
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well for starters, every dollar the state steals from a workers paycheck is one less dollar they are free to spend on their own needs.
So you are upset that you have to pay taxes? That's not a liberty, running a country isn't free. The men and women who serve in the military like to be paid for their services.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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Good luck with trying to live hundreds of years.
It may not fall in my lifetime, but I hope it does. One thing you cannot deny is that all empires fail. I wish to live long enough to see the smug smiles removed from the faces of all the leaches and criminals that inhabit guv positions.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It may not fall in my lifetime, but I hope it does. One thing you cannot deny is that all empires fail. I wish to live long enough to see the smug smiles removed from the faces of all the leaches and criminals that inhabit guv positions.
You hate this country that much? Quite an awful life you must live thinking the Americans around you are all smug.
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Old 05-25-2014, 10:02 PM
 
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You hate this country that much? Quite an awful life you must live thinking the Americans around you are all smug.
I can separate americans from government. There must be something in your programming that wont allow you to do so.
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Old 05-25-2014, 10:03 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You hate this country that much? Quite an awful life you must live thinking the Americans around you are all smug.
I dislike what this nations governments have become. I love where this nation began.
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Old 05-25-2014, 10:04 PM
 
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Seems to me the inmates have taken over the asylum.
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Old 05-25-2014, 10:06 PM
 
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Let me break the news: the government IS the people: the Congress, SCOTUS and the President were chosen by US. The society voted so it's the government that you hate but the society, you simply don't want to live by our rules.




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I can separate americans from government. There must be something in your programming that wont allow you to do so.

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Old 05-25-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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Raising hand proudly!


the question is, who will die when they use force because you and I didn't ask their permission?


Probably anyone who dares to believe that their rights do not come from the government, Republican or Democrat. You would think the men who wrote the Constitution made that abundantly clear.
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