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Old 06-04-2014, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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I've read various surveys on this subject (whether the majority of Americans are right-wing) and most state that, based on polling, this is so. What do you think? I recall seeing David Brooks on PBS claim that this is the case.

It SEEMS that way to me, given that no socialists or liberal Democrats or any leftists for that matter have been elected to the presidency that I can think of (maybe Roosevelt could be considered liberal...or maybe it was just Eleanor, based on some things I have read recently. Carter seems to have been more conservative than I thought at the time).
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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America is a right-wing nation.

Those we call liberals (Obama and most Democrats) are actually closer to center-right than they are left. Hugo Chavez would be closer to center-left, while Karl Marx was left.

Those we call conservatives (most Republicans) range from right-wing to far-right (Tea Party).

The terms "left" and "right" have American definitions and then they have real definitions. They're pretty irrelevant in American politics.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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We need to understand that Liberalism is dying quickly. Militant Progressivism and facism have taken its place and have set the first world back a century or 2.

SOMETIMES it seems as if liberalism is slowly caving in. Western democracies are battered by partisanship and populism. Inequality is undermining social cohesion. Governments are unconvincingly shoring up expensive welfare states that have failed to match their promise. Meanwhile, the running is being made by places such as Turkey, which has an intolerant majority, and China and Russia, where power cannot be contested. “Liberalism” by Edmund Fawcett is not only a gripping piece of intellectual history, it also equips the reader to understand today’s threats—and how they might be withstood.

http://www.economist.com/news/books-...ege-barricades
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: USA
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America is a right-wing nation.

Those we call liberals (Obama and most Democrats) are actually closer to center-right than they are left. Hugo Chavez would be closer to center-left, while Karl Marx was left.

Those we call conservatives (most Republicans) range from right-wing to far-right (Tea Party).

The terms "left" and "right" have American definitions and then they have real definitions. They're pretty irrelevant in American politics.
"Those we call liberals (Obama and most Democrats) are actually closer to center-right than they are left. Hugo Chavez would be closer to center-left, while Karl Marx was left."
True, even though you could be either extreme and not get your way. In Hugos case he got his way. For what ever reason countries that have identified as far left Marxist have always been led by Dictators or Lifetime Presidents.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Tea party is not far right by any stretch when you consider the "far left" to be socialist dictators.

We have a fiscally right leaning country. The problem is the republics went further right on social issues and left on the size of government to become a hybrid. Libertarians have started to fill part of the role of traditional republicans (small government) while staying center on social issues.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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America is a right-wing nation.

Those we call liberals (Obama and most Democrats) are actually closer to center-right than they are left. Hugo Chavez would be closer to center-left, while Karl Marx was left.

Those we call conservatives (most Republicans) range from right-wing to far-right (Tea Party).

The terms "left" and "right" have American definitions and then they have real definitions. They're pretty irrelevant in American politics.
So what does it make the neo-Nazi and skinheads?
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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Tea party is not far right by any stretch when you consider the "far left" to be socialist dictators.

We have a fiscally right leaning country. The problem is the republics went further right on social issues and left on the size of government to become a hybrid. Libertarians have started to fill part of the role of traditional republicans (small government) while staying center on social issues.
Great post!!!!
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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Tea party is not far right by any stretch when you consider the "far left" to be socialist dictators.

We have a fiscally right leaning country. The problem is the republics went further right on social issues and left on the size of government to become a hybrid. Libertarians have started to fill part of the role of traditional republicans (small government) while staying center on social issues.
You noticed too that the Original and some consider the Tea Party Far right? It actual the furthest to the truth ad some has compares the Tea Party as Republicans 20 years ago.

It interesting how some post to get one to believe one thing or anther with a casual commentary.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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No, I think when it comes to their own money, they are very right-wing.... when it comes to other people's money, they are very left-wing... This MAKES them a liberal...

The right-wing are more like... if its their money, right-wing.... if its your money, right-wing...
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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So what does it make the neo-Nazi and skinheads?
Lunatics.

America is a right-wing nation, and sadly not in the ways that might be good.

We've abandoned responsibility in favor of selling out to corporate interests - both parties do this - and are now stuck debating various hot button issues. You know a nation is hosed when it can't get it's economy in order no matter who is in power, and yet the people are still stuck debating if other religions should be tolerated, if gays should be treated as citizens, if science is worth believing, and if "legitimate rape" is a real thing... That's the mess we're in now. Neither party has answers, and those of us in the middle are now stuck devoting our energy to fighting back the right-wing extremists who are determined to roll back all social progress made in the past 100 or so years.

So, yes, America is a very right-wing nation. We're still debating things that children in other nations know, and even our most "leftist" leaders would still be considered - rightly - corporate sell-outs in other nations. We have a long way to go to regain our lead in the world, and we'll only be able to start down that path when the "party of stupid" knocks off the bad behavior, tells the extremists to pound sand, and gets with it to present valid alternatives to what we have.
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