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Old 06-09-2014, 10:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
NY State's black population as a percentage is also higher than Oklahoma, Kentucky, and West Virginia... same result. Less poverty.
By race/ethnicity, specifically Blacks, the poverty rates are pretty close:

Black Poverty Rate:

New York: 33%
Oklahoma: 35%
Kentucky: 38%
West Virginia: Not Sufficient Data
Poverty Rate by Race/Ethnicity | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

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I'm thinking blacks have nothing to do with it...
Actually, it looks like they do.

 
Old 06-09-2014, 10:46 AM
 
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How are they "not qualifying for Medicaid" when nearly half of all U.S. births are PAID for by Medicaid?

Democrats are paying the poor to breed. So they are. They're outbreeding everyone else. Can't have an upwardly mobile society when the poor are overbreeding and dragging everyone else down with their ever-increasing needs for artificial means of financial support. That's a society in a downward spiral.

Rome succumbed to the same problem. We all know how that ended.

The Fall of Rome and Modern Parallels : Foundation for Economic Education
Just because you were born to a poor family, does not mean you are preordained to be poor in your adult life as well. The USA is not a class society.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Just because you were born to a poor family, does not mean you are preordained to be poor in your adult life as well. The USA is not a class society.
True. 30% of those born poor work hard and smart enough to lift themselves out of poverty. If they can do it, so can the others.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Well you sure made a strong argument. Its well known that all those tech start ups are being done in Georgia, the Carolinas, Alabama, Tennessee, you know, the epitome of red states. I mean none of those start ups are flocking to the bay area at all what so ever

Texas is a rare exception, due to the oil boom. And good for Texas for being blessed with an abundant resource in high demand creating good jobs. But outside those areas of work, many of the new jobs created were low paying or govt. employees

Both Austin and Dallas have booming Tech sectors.

and the idea that Texas jobs are "low paying" is a myth. It is true that the pay scale in Texas is far lower than either coasts, BUT what is not factored in is the cost of living.

If you live in Dallas and make 40K a year, then move to New York you would need $93K to maintain the same standard of living.


So this idea that Texas is a low income area is nonsense. It is a low cost of living area and that means a person can have a high standard of living without making big $$$
 
Old 06-09-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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True. 30% of those born poor work hard and smart enough to lift themselves out of poverty. If they can do it, so can the others.

??? Not everyone has equal smarts, remember The Bell Curve? What about the poor who work hard but not smart enough?
 
Old 06-09-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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By race/ethnicity, specifically Blacks, the poverty rates are pretty close:

Black Poverty Rate:

New York: 33%
Oklahoma: 35%
Kentucky: 38%
West Virginia: Not Sufficient Data
Poverty Rate by Race/Ethnicity | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

Actually, it looks like they do.
False.

You actually just confirmed my argument. If the poverty rate for blacks is consistent regardless of state, why does New York (higher precentage of blacks) have lower rates of poverty than Oklahoma, Kentucky, Texas, and West Virginia?

As said, race has nothing to do with it. Conservative policies keep people in poverty. The variable is the policies, not the race.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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How are they "not qualifying for Medicaid" when nearly half of all U.S. births are PAID for by Medicaid?

Democrats are paying the poor to breed. So they are. They're outbreeding everyone else. Can't have an upwardly mobile society when the poor are overbreeding and dragging everyone else down with their ever-increasing needs for artificial means of financial support. That's a society in a downward spiral.

Rome succumbed to the same problem. We all know how that ended.

The Fall of Rome and Modern Parallels : Foundation for Economic Education

??? Not every poor person breeds...in fact, many of the poor ARE NOT CAPABLE of popping out the kids that would make them eligible for Medicaid...especially the poor who live in red states, plus all of the poor who are male.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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??? Not everyone has equal smarts, remember The Bell Curve? What about the poor who work hard but not smart enough?
That's why not everyone is a professional. People who work in the trades can make quite a bit of $$$, as well.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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False.

You actually just confirmed my argument. If the poverty rate for blacks is consistent regardless of state, why does New York (higher precentage of blacks) have lower rates of poverty than Oklahoma, Kentucky, Texas, and West Virginia?

As said, race has nothing to do with it. Conservative policies keep people in poverty. The variable is the policies, not the race.

Presumably because New York has higher median income than those other states. Government defines income by a specific dollar amount regardless of state.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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That's why not everyone is a professional. People who work in the trades can make quite a bit of $$$, as well.

??? Not everyone can work in the trades.
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