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View Poll Results: Has Obama's foreign policy been an utter and complete failure thus far?
Yes, 2 civil wars, spying on allies, and Iraq falling into the hands of Jihadist. I don't see how he could do worse. 36 55.38%
Yes, but some of what has happened is not under his control. 13 20.00%
No, he's been very successful. 10 15.38%
No, it's all Bush and Cheney's fault!!! I can't find a connection to Kiev or Benghazi, but I'll just assume Bush messed that up too. 6 9.23%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-13-2014, 10:46 AM
 
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... because I can't think of anything.

Let's see.

Benghazi - 4 Americans dead, including the first U.S Ambassador killed since 1979, literally dragged into the streets dead.

European Spying - Snowden exposes U.S spying on all of its major European allies.

Kiev - Completely ineffective. Obummer just let the Russians invade a sovereign nation and take out his puppet leader. Now the country is on the verge of full blown civil war.

Syria - Wow. What a clusterf*** this has become. Chemical weapons being used on civilians. U.S supplying arms to known Jihadist and Al Qaeda allies which leads to....

Mosul - The same jihadist Obummer has been giving weapons to are now on a full out invasion of Iraq to reestablish an "Islamic Caliphate in the Levant".

Let me guess liberal contigent, this is all Bush and Cheney's fault!!!

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Old 06-13-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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When we look back did Obama really have any experience outside Chicago? Sadly to the detrimant of the USA he doesn't seem to have any foreign policy at all. Hillary wasn't much better and Kerry is so smug he seems ot tell people what to do and doesn't listen.

On a less serious note Don't forget the shameful selfies at Mandellas funeral.

The world is a banquet at a large circular table where all modern societies have a seat and a voice. Now it seems the USA has been removed from the head to its own personal table too bad it is the "kids table" .
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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Obama isn’t napping, he’s surrendering - The Washington Post

Oh I forgot, trading 5 known Al Qaeda militants for one deserter.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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Lol.... thanks for the usual partisan ranting.

Most of the failures actually ARE continuations of Bush's policies, or more precisely, the policies of those who actually control the government and both parties.

But, sure - feel free to live in Tea Party land, where the following facts don't apply:

1) The GOP cut the funding to protect our embassy's, Benghazi included:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/op...hame.html?_r=0

Sure, let's ignore that fact and pretend it's all the fault of "liberals."

2) NSA's spying has gone on for years, and the Patriot Act was passed on Bush's watch. Again, more little facts that nobody wants to hear.

3) Starting a war with Russia is not a good idea, but sure - let's start up WW 3 over the Ukraine. Great idea!

4) The Middle East: I'm sorry, but when was the last time, exactly, the US has had a policy here that worked? Are we forgetting a few little wars started under Bush that helped set the current events in motion? Heck, are we forgetting decades of failures - from both parties - that have helped all this unfold?

Obama is no saint, that much is obvious, but it is simply laughable to wave the OP's list around as some sort of "proof" of how bad his foreign policy is when most of the junk mentioned either had nothing to do with him (Benghazi), or are simply the OP's personal rants - "let's start a war with Russia!" Finally, anyone who actually cared about this nation - instead of partisan rants - might want to know why failed foreign policies continue, regardless of which part is in office... but, no - let's not ask any real questions and instead shriek "liberal!!!" and pretend we're having intelligent discussions on this forum.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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Let's see, how about you grow a set and say what should have been done in those sitations. Syria? US didn't cause the arab spring sorry. Mosul? Should we have kept troops there forever? Kiev? Should we have started WW3?

In terms of your Bush card, we invaded Iraq and removed the one guy who could easily hold all of that together in the hopes that democracy would take hold in a place with little history of it and a big history of sectarian violence. Benghazi. No Bush there but I seem to recall a spendthrift Congress not wanting to spend more money on beefing up security at the embassies.

It's so easy for brainless knuckledraggers to whine and complain, but they don't put forward any alternative ideas. Easier to whine like a petulant child than to understand that the terrible brand of conservatism in this country is largely the problem.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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... because I can't think of anything.

Let's see.

Benghazi - 4 Americans dead, including the first U.S Ambassador killed since 1979, literally dragged into the streets dead.

European Spying - Snowden exposes U.S spying on all of its major European allies.

Kiev - Completely ineffective. Obummer just let the Russians invade a sovereign nation and take out his puppet leader. Now the country is on the verge of full blown civil war.

Syria - Wow. What a clusterf*** this has become. Chemical weapons being used on civilians. U.S supplying arms to known Jihadist and Al Qaeda allies which leads to....

Mosul - The same jihadist Obummer has been giving weapons to are now on a full out invasion of Iraq to reestablish an "Islamic Caliphate in the Levant".

Let me guess liberal contigent, this is all Bush and Cheney's fault!!!

You're unhappy.

I can tell.

Call your senators and congressman. Demand immediate impeachment. Keep us updated.

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Old 06-13-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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3) Starting a war with Russia is not a good idea, but sure - let's start up WW 3 over the Ukraine.
Look at this guy's dishonesty. When did I ever suggest going to war with Russia was good idea?

Wow liberals are so intellectually corrupt!
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
When we look back did Obama really have any experience outside Chicago? Sadly to the detrimant of the USA he doesn't seem to have any foreign policy at all. Hillary wasn't much better and Kerry is so smug he seems ot tell people what to do and doesn't listen.

On a less serious note Don't forget the shameful selfies at Mandellas funeral.

The world is a banquet at a large circular table where all modern societies have a seat and a voice. Now it seems the USA has been removed from the head to its own personal table too bad it is the "kids table" .
Lets not forget as a freshman senator, all he voted was "present".
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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Let's see, how about you grow a set and say what should have been done in those sitations.
A president is supposed to have a set as you say.
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