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amen. Americans have been raised since WWII to think it is our duty to step in and police the people of the world. Changing this is hard. It's almost painful to our nation psyche to just let things be. Our gut reaction is to react. Obama's hands off (if he sticks to it of course) is exactly what we need to embrace difficult as it may be.
However, Obama told the West Point grads: "It is absolutely true that in the 21st century, American isolationism is not an option." So what does that mean to you?
Lets see if you (truly) care about Americans dying, spying, civil war, and a Islamic takeover. Or if everything you said was a personal and spiritual lie told to everyone in this forum and even yourself.
Republicans did not care about those 100,000 dead Iraqis, and they did not care about 1,000's of US soldiers dying for nothing in Bush's Iraq war. Republicans never showed remorse or said a single prayer for those 100,000+ people killed.
How could republicans care about Benghazi and those 4 Americans being killed (judging from Iraq they couldn't, and the dead Americans in Benghazi are being used as a political attack tool.)
Then you attack Obama for spying. But when GW Bush created those spy programs to spy on US citizens and other countries, did republicans care? Republicans never said a word about Bush starting the spy programs, and this spying was a good thing until Bush handed his spy network to Obama. Republicans don't truly care about spying because they loved spying when GW Bush was doing it. Bush Authorized Domestic Spying
Then you complain about Kiev. But GW Bush attacked Iraq in the name of bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq. But at this moment Al Qaeda is taking over Iraq, and republicans could care less that GW Bush's actions put Al Qaeda in an excellent position to control all of Iraq.
The saddest thing about political attack threads like this one are the effect on Americans republicans. Republicans start threads like this pretending to care about dead soldiers, civil and international liberties, and terrorist takeovers. But the republicans don't truly care about any of those things, they just use these moral issues to fuel political attacks (and in the process they lie to themselves and weaken the truly honorable parts of their souls.)
You voted for HOPE N CHANGE. "Change" was presumably meant to be a "change" from Bush's policies. And yet here you are giving Barack Obama a free pass for extending and even exacerbating the problems that came forth under Bush?
Should we now accuse you of telling both a "personal and spirtual lie?"
But... but... Obama said the war was over and the "tides of war" had receded? Did Obama lie?
So Obama is just a supporter and user of a program Bush created? Kind of like Windows XP?
I'm sure Obama lied many times, but we can't have an honest discussion about it because of the following republican behavior.
Bush kills 100,000+ innocent people (republicans think its OK.)
Obama kills 4 people (republicans think its wrong.)
Bush spy's on people (republicans think its OK)
Obama spy's on people (republicans think its wrong.)
Bush starts a program for military drones, Bush kills people with drones (republicans think its OK.)
Obama kills people with drones (republicans think its wrong.)
Bush creates huge deficits and debt (republicans think huge deficits are OK.)
Bush hands his deficits to Obama (republicans then say deficits are bad, and Bush's deficits are Obama's fault.)
And your doing the same irrational behavior in your above post concerning lying.
Obama says a few lies (that's wrong.)
GW Bush says 935 lies and the lies kill 100,000+ people (that's OK.)
Yes Obama has told some lies, but we can't have an honest discussion about it (because republicans lying is OK, and democrats lying is wrong.)
And when you consider GW Bush told 935 lies about Iraq and killed 100,000+ innocent people and republicans think this is OK (that's dangerous behavior.)
You voted for HOPE N CHANGE. "Change" was presumably meant to be a "change" from Bush's policies. And yet here you are giving Barack Obama a free pass for extending and even exacerbating the problems that came forth under Bush?
Should we now accuse you of telling both a "personal and spirtual lie?"
Not all of those are fully his fault, but I will say that Obama's foreign policy has generally been pretty crappy.
Foreign Policy analysts agree with your "pretty crappy" assessment. "Lead from Behind" and "dither for months" has never been a winning strategy. Obama didn't have any Policy experience (Domestic or Foreign) when he was elected, but he is not the first President to come to the Oval Office without 'leadership' experience. The difference with Obama is the "Team" he chose - it didn't start off that bad, but he systematically purged all who dared to disagree with him about anything. Our complete Foreign Policy is now run by people with no real life experience except that they are "Progressives". They have a "Unicorns & Rainbows" philosophy about both our Foriegn Policy and our National Security.
He is "experimenting" and doing a very poor job of it. At the very least - if Obama thinks it's a good idea to let the Middle East blow up in a Fire Storm, he should have at least made sure that the USA could survive it by safe guarding our Oil Supplies. He has refused to allow the Keystone Pipeline which has harmed our relationship with Canada and we depend on both Canada and Mid-East Oil.
Worse than that - Europe is very dependent on Oil from both Iraq & Libya - Libya is 90% off-line and Iraq is clearly in trouble. It's very likely that Europe will be wanting us to give them another Release from OUR Strategic Oil Reserves ..... and Obama will do it. He has never replaced the last he Release he did and we have no idea where the Billions of dollars we got for that oil went to.
Obama, John Kerry, Chuck Hagel, Eric Holder, Susan Rice, Martin Dempsey ..... a Perfect Storm
Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What Obama isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What Obama isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
What? Just admit you don't understand why the Russians invaded[
You don't understand either. In fact, you have a very superficial and perverted view of what's going on in Ukraine. But good news - you are not alone in your misunderstanding.
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Go read a few articles and then come back once you're educated on how that situation spiraled out of control.
It's very sad to see that many people getting their education from some articles.
Obama should not be arming jihadist.
Obama should not be putting up puppet leaders in Kiev.
Kiev is the city, not a country. Though I agreed with you - Odumba shouldn't do those things.
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Did Obama lie? 
