Should the Buk Missile System Be Covered By the 2nd Amendment? (party, government)

[NYRhockeyfan]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

And the laws banning us from owning them are unconstitutional. The 2nd Amendment was written so that the citizenry could be armed so as to fight off and overthrow tyrannical government. If our government has war planes, the the 2nd Amendment allows us to own anti-aircraft missile systems. If our government has nuclear arms, then the 2nd Amendment allows us to have nuclear arms too.

Some rights have to be infringed to guarantee a more important right. In this case, the right to bear arms is second to the right to life. A single crazy man with a nuclear bomb is infringing on millions of peoples' right to life.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by NYRhockeyfan

Some rights have to be infringed to guarantee a more important right. In this case, the right to bear arms is second to the right to life.

Spoken like a true gun grabber.

[Woof]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

Of course they are protected by the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment states: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Lol! And the right to free speech means it's ok to yell fire! in a crowded theater. There's something funny about people who look on the Constitution with a dull, wooden literal interpretation at all times, as if it were handed down by God.

The weird thing is that Tea Partiers actually have a lot of political power, which highlights one of the dangers of having a democracy.

[NYRhockeyfan]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

Spoken like a true gun grabber.

I don't even want guns to be confiscated. I'm in favor of background checks and required training. If you're a law-abiding citizen, what's the big deal? Too lazy to fill out a little paperwork?

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by NYRhockeyfan

Some rights have to be infringed to guarantee a more important right. In this case, the right to bear arms is second to the right to life. A single crazy man with a nuclear bomb is infringing on millions of peoples' right to life.

Not until the bomb goes off, has he or she done anything wrong.

[NYRhockeyfan]

Originally Posted by BentBow

Not until the bomb goes off, has he or she done anything wrong.

Are you really willing to risk millions of lives and economic disaster? I can't believe we're even having a debate over whether nuclear bombs should be legal to own.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by NYRhockeyfan

I don't even want guns to be confiscated. I'm in favor of background checks and required training. If you're a law-abiding citizen, what's the big deal? Too lazy to fill out a little paperwork?

What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

[armory]

Originally Posted by borregokid

Lets say you are a Tea Partier-Militia member in Texas, Arizona, or California and the Russkies sell you a Buk missile system. Would you be outraged if the gubbermint seized your missiles? Shouldnt they be covered by the 2nd Amendment. Wouldnt you be outraged and the seizure of your missiles?

It feels like flying just got a little bit more dangerous - The Washington Post

Gee, the idiot questions about what the 2A concerns get to be more outrageous everyday.
Do you wanna know about my missile silo with an SM-65 Alas ICBM and 12 nuclear warheads? How about my B-1 bomber in my secret underground hangar? I no longer have my U-2 as I acquired an F-117 to take it's place. I didn't like the long hours at the stick.
The Howitzer is out in the old red barn near the Sherman tank and the flight line is covered with 4" of topsoil. The Harrier can clear that off quick enough.
The sub is in dry dock down in Norfolk having some PM done. I sold the copter to make room for something else. I'm trying to procure one of the MRAPs DHS is handing out to police depts around the country but Napolitano is tight with them. She gets my ammo for me, what's her problemo?

[NYRhockeyfan]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

If you're a law abiding citizen then it's not infringed. Criminals get their rights infringed. Felons can't vote. Felons can't buy guns.

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by Woof

Lol! And the right to free speech means it's ok to yell fire! in a crowded theater. There's something funny about people who look on the Constitution with a dull, wooden literal interpretation at all times, as if it were handed down by God.

The weird thing is that Tea Partiers actually have a lot of political power, which highlights one of the dangers of having a democracy.

The Tea Party has political power? My sides hurt.

Originally Posted by borregokid

Lets say you are a Tea Partier-Militia member in Texas, Arizona, or California and the Russkies sell you a Buk missile system. Would you be outraged if the gubbermint seized your missiles? Shouldnt they be covered by the 2nd Amendment. Wouldnt you be outraged and the seizure of your missiles?

It feels like flying just got a little bit more dangerous - The Washington Post

You can own one, but not everyone can own one.

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 113B > § 2332g

§ 2332g. Missile systems designed to destroy aircraft

(a) Unlawful Conduct.—
(1) In general.— Except as provided in paragraph (3), it shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly produce, construct, otherwise acquire, transfer directly or indirectly, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or possess and threaten to use—
(A) an explosive or incendiary rocket or missile that is guided by any system designed to enable the rocket or missile to—
(i) seek or proceed toward energy radiated or reflected from an aircraft or toward an image locating an aircraft; or
(ii) otherwise direct or guide the rocket or missile to an aircraft;
(B) any device designed or intended to launch or guide a rocket or missile described in subparagraph (A); or
(C) any part or combination of parts designed or redesigned for use in assembling or fabricating a rocket, missile, or device described in subparagraph (A) or (B).

(2) Nonweapon.— Paragraph (1)(A) does not apply to any device that is neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon.
(3) Excluded conduct.— This subsection does not apply with respect to—
(A) conduct by or under the authority of the United States or any department or agency thereof or of a State or any department or agency thereof; or
(B) conduct pursuant to the terms of a contract with the United States or any department or agency thereof or with a State or any department or agency thereof.

(b) Jurisdiction.— Conduct prohibited by subsection (a) is within the jurisdiction of the United States if—
(1) the offense occurs in or affects interstate or foreign commerce;
(2) the offense occurs outside of the United States and is committed by a national of the United States;
(3) the offense is committed against a national of the United States while the national is outside the United States;
(4) the offense is committed against any property that is owned, leased, or used by the United States or by any department or agency of the United States, whether the property is within or outside the United States; or
(5) an offender aids or abets any person over whom jurisdiction exists under this subsection in committing an offense under this section or conspires with any person over whom jurisdiction exists under this subsection to commit an offense under this section.

(c) Criminal Penalties.—
(1) In general.— Any person who violates, or attempts or conspires to violate, subsection (a) shall be fined not more than $2,000,000 and shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment not less than 25 years or to imprisonment for life.
(2) Other circumstances.— Any person who, in the course of a violation of subsection (a), uses, attempts or conspires to use, or possesses and threatens to use, any item or items described in subsection (a), shall be fined not more than $2,000,000 and imprisoned for not less than 30 years or imprisoned for life.
(3) Special circumstances.— If the death of another results from a person’s violation of subsection (a), the person shall be fined not more than $2,000,000 and punished by imprisonment for life.
(d) Definition.— As used in this section, the term “aircraft” has the definition set forth in section 40102 (a)(6) of title 49, United States Code.

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