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Old 07-23-2014, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Once again . . . No, it's not on the UW-Madison website.
Home | Diversity Framework | University of Wisconsin–Madison

The UW system page provides the definitions for the new policy.

Of course the university is going to deny that - they got caught with egg on their face - hoping that know one would dig too deeply.

Kind of like "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it".
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Just think..now more minorities can succeed in Engineering and Medicine which can lead to high paying jobs.

They will fail in any technical interview when the employer questions the validity of their "degree".
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:02 PM
 
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Just think..now more minorities can succeed in Engineering and Medicine which can lead to high paying jobs.

Just think of all the collapsed bridges and malpractice suits created by minorities in engineering and medicine who recieved grades they did not deserve.
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Home | Diversity Framework | University of Wisconsin–Madison

The UW system page provides the definitions for the new policy.
12 posts ago before ^^^^

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The quote that the OP provided isn't even in the UW document: http://diversityframework.wisc.edu/d...ay192014_2.pdf

Do a simple find search. Not in there.
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Just think of all the collapsed bridges and malpractice suits created by minorities in engineering and medicine who recieved grades they did not deserve.
But it's more important to be diverse now eh ?

Something about this thinking is making me think that eventually H1-B's will be the ones we flock to.
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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12 posts ago before ^^^^
Harrier addressed that - and you conveniently ignored it.

The fact remains that the UW-Madison framework is modeled on the document passed by the UW Board of Regents in 2009 - or are you calling Professor Hansen a liar?
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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When was the last time you actually took the time to comprehend what was said?

Here, let's revisit the actual post:

Where does the OP make the claim that grades ARE being distributed by race? He's saying UW is trying to.

BTW, when I was in college the faculty actually worried more about teaching than pushing ideologies.
The college isn't trying to make grades based on race, you guys are just trying to read more into something than what is really there.
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You are the only person who has this question and were the first to raise it for some weird reason.
And you still haven't answered it.

Here - lets take a deeper look at the Framework for Diversity and Inclusive Excellence document which is found on the UW-Madison site, since you want to play semantics games.

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F. After Plan 2008.

The decade-long Plan 2008 culminated in a
close-out report issued by the Office of the Vice


Provost and Chief Diversity Officer in February 2009. In 2008 the UW System introduced

“Inclusive Excellence,” an American Association of Colleges and Universities model for diversity

and inclusion, as the successor to Plan 2008. As a model rather than a
plan, Inclusive Excellence is


meant to guide the day-to-day work and policy of each campus through an iterative process,

responsive to each institution’s individual “mission, culture, identity, and demographics.”

According to the
UW System, Inclusive Excellence is intended to be “incorporate[d]… into the


larger institutional culture [so that] inclusive excellence and diversity more generally will simply

become integrated into the larger fabric of the institution.”

Although benchmarks and goals are outlined, the goal of the Inclusive Excellence model is to guide

evolution and change within institutions of higher learning and to guide colleges and universities

approach to its achieving excellence through deliberate and intentional coordination.
What all this means is that the UW, Inclusive Excellence model was used as the basis for the Framework for Diversity and Inclusive Excellence.

Since the UW-Madison campus is governed by the University of Wisconsin System Board of Regents, and their model was used to formulate the Framework for Diversity and Inclusive Excellence, the "proportional participation" language concerning "grade distribution" is integral to the UW-Madison plan.

This isn't rocket science - and Harrier wouldn't want to be an astronaut transported into space with the assistance of a rocket built by a UW-Madison graduate given the existence of such an inane policy.

Last edited by Harrier; 07-23-2014 at 04:02 PM..
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Old 07-23-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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I bet Obama is a product of something idiotic like this.

And look at where it got all of us.
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Old 07-23-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Originally Posted by steven_h View Post
When was the last time you actually took the time to comprehend what was said?

Here, let's revisit the actual post:

Where does the OP make the claim that grades ARE being distributed by race? He's saying UW is trying to.

BTW, when I was in college the faculty actually worried more about teaching than pushing ideologies.
However UW has not and is not implementing a policy to distribute grades by race. Anyone who thinks so has misinterpreted the statement you have quoted. The researcher who originated the quote has not recommended that grades be distributed by race.
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