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Old 09-09-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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She is a war hawk. Too bad he's an arsehole.
He's not that bad, most of the time....
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:16 PM
 
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"Paul calls hillary war hawk"

Hell would have to freeze over before I voted for either one of them. Besides, a couple of days later, when he heard the public's opinion was changing - he morphed into a hawk. Darnest thing I've ever seen . In real life, he's actually a turkey buzzard.
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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"Paul calls hillary war hawk"

Hell would have to freeze over before I voted for either one of them. Besides, a couple of days later, when he heard the public's opinion was changing - he morphed into a hawk. Darnest thing I've ever seen . In real life, he's actually a turkey buzzard.
The things people make up. He never changed his opinion. He always said he wouldn't take going after ISIS off the table. When America gets attacked or threatened America defends itself. He also said he'd work with Assad and Iran in getting ISIS.

Rand Paul Wants to Team Up With Assad and Iran to Stop ISIS - The Daily Beast
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:58 AM
 
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The things people make up. He never changed his opinion. He always said he wouldn't take going after ISIS off the table. When America gets attacked or threatened America defends itself. He also said he'd work with Assad and Iran in getting ISIS.

Rand Paul Wants to Team Up With Assad and Iran to Stop ISIS - The Daily Beast
This is an argument from someone that has supported Paul. Mine is not a partisan argument. I fully supported Paul in his filibuster of droning American citizens and his arguments about intervention in the past.

Rand Paul: US Stay Out of Syria

EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Rand Paul: US Stay Out of Syria

This is a change in positions and one I can not support. No one is ever going to agree with a politician on everything but this is a big one.

Vermin Supreme 2016
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Old 09-10-2014, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This is an argument from someone that has supported Paul. Mine is not a partisan argument. I fully supported Paul in his filibuster of droning American citizens and his arguments about intervention in the past.

Rand Paul: US Stay Out of Syria

EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Rand Paul: US Stay Out of Syria

This is a change in positions and one I can not support. No one is ever going to agree with a politician on everything but this is a big one.

Vermin Supreme 2016
It's a major flip-flop. I think Rand will be a good politician one day, but has a long way to mature to the level of his father.
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Old 09-10-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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She is a War Hawk. To pretend she's not, is like the Republicans pretending Mitt Romney was a Fiscal Conservative. I get it, she's from your party, but come on. She's more right wing than Bush was. Hillary was one of the main cheerleaders for "regime change in Iraq". She's been on board for every military incursion & been much more hawkish than Obama on most of them. She wanted to arm Assad's rivals in Syria sooner & with more gusto than Obama. She's dead seat against a timeline to withdraw from Afghanistan. She wants to leave a "substantial residual force" in Iraq. It's almost comical how far from Liberal she is, but Democrats will vote Democrat anyway.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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It's a major flip-flop. I think Rand will be a good politician one day, but has a long way to mature to the level of his father.
I disagree. I think Rand is a way better politician than Ron is/was.
This is not the same as agreeing/disagreeing with his POV, if you know what I mean.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I disagree. I think Rand is a way better politician than Ron is/was.
This is not the same as agreeing/disagreeing with his POV, if you know what I mean.
Which POV? The one before the flip-flop, or the one after it.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Gone
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He's not an isolationist, he never has been. Trade with all nations entangling alliances with none. With Paul as President you wont see us fighting Al Qaeda in one place and being an ally with them in another.
What you will see is us keeping out sons and daughters alive and healthy instead of sacrificing them for something that has nothing to do with protecting our borders like the Constitution says. Which makes us a lot safer.
But there are times his BS logic does not work. We were attacked on 9-11, those that attacked us were operating out of Afghanistan with the support of their government run by the Taliban, by Paul's logic we cannot attack Afghanistan because they themselves did not attack us, and that is enough for most Americans to look and him and say, No Thanks.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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She is a War Hawk.

It's almost comical how far from Liberal she is, but Democrats will vote Democrat anyway.
Hillary Clinton's Gay-Marriage Problem - The Atlantic

Funny too that it is rumored she is gay, or at least swings both ways, but I guess that's such a Republican thing to do, it kinda makes sense..
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