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And which science do you believe in? The one today, the one of 100 years ago, or the one 100 years from today, because they are all different. Which one is the "truth" you put your faith in?
Exactly. 15 years ago we had 10 years to take drastic actions or face devastating repercussions. Seems it never happened. Seems what happened was fudged figures and flawed models. There is nothing we can change by carbon credits or cap and trade scheme's.
Notice the the "controversy" over the data held in East Anglia has evaporated and the next controversy is Australia. What we don't have are scientific studies that demonstrate the anthropogentic climate change is not happening.
The Koch brothers are leading the ignorant sheeple down a garden path again.
Id say the Koch Brothers are leading them all of us over a cliff so that they can make a few extra millions!
Please post some science that demonstrates anthropogentic climate change isn't happening. All I see are sensational stories by RW news blogs -- Briebart? Really?
Please post some science that demonstrates anthropogentic climate change is happening. PROOF, not conjecture.
Proof is the province of obscure mathematical theorems. Science uses hypothesis testing. That is as complete as it can be at this point and the science is accepted by the entire scientific community. Let me quote AAAS, the leading scientific professional organization in the United States.
The overwhelming evidence of human-caused climate change documents both current impacts with significant costs and extraordinary future risks to society and natural systems. The scientific community has convened conferences, published reports, spoken out at forums and proclaimed, through statements by virtually every national scientific academy and relevant major scientific organization — including the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) — that climate change puts the well-being of people of all nations at risk.
Surveys show that many Americans think climate change is still a topic of significant scientific disagreement. Thus, it is important and increasingly urgent for the public to know there is now a high degree of agreement among climate scientists that human-caused climate change is real. Moreover, while the public is becoming aware that climate change is increasing the likelihood of certain local disasters, many people do not yet understand that there is a small, but real chance of abrupt, unpredictable and potentially irreversible changes with highly damaging impacts on people in the United States and around the world.
Climate scientists agree: climate change is happening here and now. Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening. This agreement is documented not just by a single study, but by a converging stream of evidence over the past two decades from surveys of scientists, content analyses of peer-reviewed studies, and public statements issued by virtually every membership organization of experts in this field. Average global temperature has increased by about 1.4˚ F over the last 100 years. Sea level is rising, and some types of extreme events – such as heat waves and heavy precipitation events – are happening more frequently. Recent scientific findings indicate that climate change is likely responsible for the increase in the intensity of many of these events in recent years.
It's NOT accepted by the ENTIRE scientific community and ALL models have NEVER been right. EVER!
It's NOT accepted by the ENTIRE scientific community and ALL models have NEVER been right. EVER!
I hope no science is ever accepted by the ENTIRE scientific community. We always want people working on other theories. That's how science advances. The question is how much consensus is required before we develop policies to deal with our best understanding of the problem. We have more than enough.
Fortunately you "deniers" are busy looking for data inconsistencies while we "believers" are busy writing law and regulation to mitigate AGW. The "AGW isn't happening" train left to station about a decade ago. We are phasing out coal-fire generation plants, reducing gasoline consumption, and the most exciting automobile to come along is decades is electric powered.
Exactly. 15 years ago we had 10 years to take drastic actions or face devastating repercussions. Seems it never happened. Seems what happened was fudged figures and flawed models. There is nothing we can change by carbon credits or cap and trade scheme's.
Even if this were true (which it isn't, at least not for the majority), then being wrong once doesn't mean that you are going to be wrong forever. It's like saying that airplanes couldn't possibly exist because in the 7th century someone died trying to fly by making giant wings out of bearskin.
I hope no science is ever accepted by the ENTIRE scientific community. We always want people working on other theories. That's how science advances. The question is how much consensus is required before we develop policies to deal with our best understanding of the problem. We have more than enough.
Fortunately you "deniers" are busy looking for data inconsistencies while we "believers" are busy writing law and regulation to mitigate AGW. The "AGW isn't happening" train left to station about a decade ago. We are phasing out coal-fire generation plants, reducing gasoline consumption, and the most exciting automobile to come along is decades is electric powered.
Keep debating. We will keep regulating.
How are people going to afford to charge those so called electric cars when the electricity costs skyrocket, and we end up with rolling blackouts due to AGW conspiracy theorists non existent thinking? Keep regulating, and businesses will go out of business, and or move some where its affordable to do business.
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