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View Poll Results: Isn't it the time to rethink that conservative "liberals are anti-business" claim as it is
Yes. Liberal socio-economic policies work as evidenced by the richest us states 19 63.33%
No. Only conservative policies work and Alabama and Mississippi are an exception 9 30.00%
I don't know. Need to find out more about the issue. 2 6.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-15-2014, 12:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by random_thoughts View Post
Oh, really... Why don't you name those successful conservative states...
Here's a few metrics in which Conservative states rank in the top 10:

ND
HS Graduation Rate - 3rd (tied)
Unemployment Rate - 1st
Quality of life - 5th
Best for business - 10th
Best state to make a living - 6th
Safest - 10th
Best run states - 1st

SD:
Unemployment Rate - 4th
Best run states - 7th

NE:
HS Graduation Rate - 3rd (tied)
Unemployment Rate - 2nd
Quality of life - 4th
Best for business - 4th
Best state to make a living - 10th
Best run states - 3rd

WY:
Unemployment Rate - 8th
Safest - 4th
Best run states - 2nd

TX:
HS Graduation Rate - 3rd (tied)
Best for business - 2nd
Best state to make a living - 2nd

UT:
Unemployment Rate - 3rd
Best for business - 3rd
Best state to make a living - 5th
Best run states - 4th

 
Old 09-15-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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Texas just announced they have 23 billion dollars worth of road debt.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Texas just announced they have 23 billion dollars worth of road debt.
yep, right there with ny

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...-in-disrepair#

Years of underinvestment in New York's infrastructure have led to unsafe and congested roadways that cost New York motorists a total of $20.3 billion annually statewide, and approximately $2,300 per driver in the New York City area, according to a new report released by TRIP, a Washington, D.C.-based national transportation organization
 
Old 09-15-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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Again the conservative argument is never to defend their ideological beliefs. It never fails.

Everything I wrote, conservatives have been wrong about. Every one of those events conservatives made predictions and they have proven to be 100% wrong about all of them.

The GWBush tax cuts
The Iraq War
The war on terror
Financial deregulation
Stimulus/fed QE
Growth of budget deficits
The auto bailouts
The ACA


The question I keep asking what have conservatives gotten correct since 2001?

It has been an epic string of them being 100% wrong about everything.
Again, those items you listed Obama either continued or made worse thru the policies he promotes, the laws he signs, or regulations he has his admin agencies enact, or the actions he takes.

Do not pretend all of those things apply to "conservatives" when Bush was not even a conservative. You just toss around terms and lables out of pure ignorance.

Obama started an illegal war agaist Libya, wtihout any congressional approval, and now he is starting another war with ISIS. He's worse than Bush ever was, by every measure.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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Because there is sufficient demand in NYC to continue to drive an increase in price. Look at areas without demand and/or falling property prices. They have to continually raise millage rates to maintain a constant revenue stream in light of those falling property prices. As the millage rates increase the property becomes even less attractive to the market and prices decrease further to compensate. This continues until demand pressure finds buyers despite the high tax rates. Areas like NYC have both high demand and high taxes due to having to deliver a high level of services. If they found a way to slash property taxes you would see prices skyrocket beyond what they already have.

In California, Prop 13 has been one of the reasons for the astronomical price of housing in high demand markets.
Exactly

DEMAND is the determine factor, regardless of taxes
 
Old 09-15-2014, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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yep, right there with ny

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...-in-disrepair#

Years of underinvestment in New York's infrastructure have led to unsafe and congested roadways that cost New York motorists a total of $20.3 billion annually statewide, and approximately $2,300 per driver in the New York City area, according to a new report released by TRIP, a Washington, D.C.-based national transportation organization

Your article is a liberal plea for New York to spend more money on transportation infrastructure on the basis that it would create jobs and save motorists money.

Nowhere does it say New York has 23 billion dollars worth of road debt.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Louisiana is liberal?





As a % of GDP, Obama's administration has the lowest levels of spending in the last 50 years. Facts.
What a joke, but I expect bogus made up facts from people like you.

Bush spent much less than Obama has. I was not until Bush signed emergency spending that we saw that spike in late 2008. Even as high the deficit spendng under Bush was, that late 2008 spending was an emergency spending anamoly, and not representative of the spending in the Bush years.



All of Obama's annual deficits have been larger than any since the 1940s.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Your article is a liberal plea for New York to spend more money on transportation infrastructure on the basis that it would create jobs and save motorists money.

Nowhere does it say New York has 23 billion dollars worth of road debt.
next you will be telling me I-81 is as smooth as a babies bottom

uhm it says 20 billion annually for road repairs

btw the NYS budget is 135 billion.... with a deficit of over 2 billion

new York state has a debt of 362 billion dollars

State of New York Debt Clock
 
Old 09-15-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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next you will be telling me I-81 is as smooth as a babies bottom

uhm it says 20 billion annually for road repairs

btw the NYS budget is 135 billion.... with a deficit of over 2 billion

new York state has a debt of 362 billion dollars

State of New York Debt Clock
No, it says underinvestment in infrastructure costs motorists 20 billion a year. Probably on stuff like extra gas while idling and repair to cars damaged by riding on poor roads.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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Here's a few metrics in which Conservative states rank in the top 10:

ND
HS Graduation Rate - 3rd (tied)
Unemployment Rate - 1st
Quality of life - 5th
Best for business - 10th
Best state to make a living - 6th
Safest - 10th
Best run states - 1st

SD:
Unemployment Rate - 4th
Best run states - 7th

NE:
HS Graduation Rate - 3rd (tied)
Unemployment Rate - 2nd
Quality of life - 4th
Best for business - 4th
Best state to make a living - 10th
Best run states - 3rd

WY:
Unemployment Rate - 8th
Safest - 4th
Best run states - 2nd

TX:
HS Graduation Rate - 3rd (tied)
Best for business - 2nd
Best state to make a living - 2nd

UT:
Unemployment Rate - 3rd
Best for business - 3rd
Best state to make a living - 5th
Best run states - 4th
Buahahaha. First of all metrics are numbers not some contests for "the best to do business" or "best run state".
Second. What? Wyoming, Nebraska, South Dakota? Pretty much huge states with miniature populations that would fit to New York City's bus and with economies that receive billions in federal funding, quite a few thousand dollars per capita.

Wyoming, South Dakota and Nebrasca. Wow, Republicans are real economic geniuses

Given your abysmal record don't you think you guys should shut up about our national economy and first cleanup your back yard i.e. conservatives states of the South??? It seems you have plenty of great economic ideas but somehow you can't get them to work in your own states, nevertheless your push the entire country to follow your example lol
If we all wanted to live in Alabama we would've moved there lol
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