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To be violent as a Christian requires ignoring the words of Christ. Yes, there are many who do.
To be peaceul as a Muslim requires ignoring the words of Muhammad. And, yes, there are many who do.
One place where I disagree, Christ said, "He didn't come to change the law." His job was for you/others to have life after death with Him. Nothing to do with man making laws that hurt the people, just who votes for the politicians to run our lives, Jesus sure isn't!
Can you tell us were in the NT where it says to harm others for their non-belief? I know of this versus, is there something I am missing?
Matthew 10:14"If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. "Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.
Radical Muslims are even against their own people, have you noticed how much territory radical Islam owns?
Saudi Arabia is not moderate, they have paid for others to be radicalized. Iran such a peaceful place for the people.....would you care to give 1 Islamic country that appreciates women and children. Living in America is probably easier to say you are a moderate Muslim.
One place where I disagree, Christ said, "He didn't come to change the law." His job was for you/others to have life after death with Him. Nothing to do with man making laws that hurt the people, just who votes for the politicians to run our lives, Jesus sure isn't!
Can you tell us were in the NT where it says to harm others for their non-belief? I know of this versus, is there something I am missing?
Matthew 10:14"If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. "Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.
Radical Muslims are even against their own people, have you noticed how much territory radical Islam owns?
Saudi Arabia is not moderate, they have paid for others to be radicalized. Iran such a peaceful place for the people.....would you care to give 1 Islamic country that appreciates women and children. Living in America is probably easier to say you are a moderate Muslim.
Context, my friend. You are like the Pharisees, or the 7th dayers down the street from me who thought that they should eat milk and honey every day because the Bible says milk and honey is the perfect diet. Boy did it mess them up physically. You're going to mess things up too when you can't understand what the actual point a sentence is making.
As mentioned before atheists also understand there is a huge difference between how some religious kook such as yourself take the Bible out of context to satisfy their own personal desires to mistreat others and what the Qu'ran, the hadith, and the Sira actual says in very explicit details. There is absolutely no way to misinterpret passage the explicit tell followers they can have 4 wives (for example). Bible religious kooks say, "hey the bible also has polygamy in it, so bring on the women," but such religious kooks are only trying to satisfy their own lusts because there is not one passage in the Bible that actually condones multiple wives. Religious kooks trying to interpret the Bible use the same sort of reasoning 9/11 Truthers use to come to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job.
Let the first man that can claim he is free from sin cast this stone.
THE TWELVE APOSTLES:
Andrew - crucified
Bartholomew - beaten then crucified
James, son of Alphaeus - stoned to death
James, son of Zebedee - beheaded
John - exiled for his faith; died of old age
Judas (not Iscariot) - stoned to death
Matthew - speared to death
Peter - crucifed upside down
Philip - crucified
Simon - crucified
Thomas - speared to death
Matthias - stoned to death
(source: Fox's Book of Martyrs)
You confuse the book of the Jews with the book of Christianity.
Let's put it this way; Westboro Baptist is an abomination to the religion. This is how most Christians view them.
The god of the old testament is not the same god of the Christians?
"And The Lord said to Moses ... He who blasphemes the Name of The Lord shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him; the sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death." (Leviticus 24:13,16 RSV)
"If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods ... You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from The Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." (Deuteronomy 13:6,10 RSV)
"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day ... And The Lord said to Moses, "The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp." (Numbers 15:32,35 RSV)
The god of the old testament is not the same god of the Christians?
"And The Lord said to Moses ... He who blasphemes the Name of The Lord shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him; the sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death." (Leviticus 24:13,16 RSV)
"If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods ... You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from The Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." (Deuteronomy 13:6,10 RSV)
"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day ... And The Lord said to Moses, "The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp." (Numbers 15:32,35 RSV)
Ah yes, another religious Pharisaical kook. You religious kooks always look at things, and think, "hey, look people should be stoned to death for picking up sticks. It says it right in the Bible." Sorry dude, but your conspiracy theorist logic fails. Yes, the God of the Bible did say to the people at the time that above all they should keep the Sabbath holy by among other things not build a fire, but that doesn't not mean that in 2014 people should be executed for that... unless you are a Pharisaical religious kook. Context, my friend. Even nuts like Bill Maher get this concept. Unlike the Bible that gives instructions to the Jews at a particular time, the Qu'ran gives explicit details that tell you that you can kill people for all time. No need to ask Allah for advice like the Jews asked Yahweh because every single Muslim is supposed to mimic Muhammad in word and deed, including the raping and killing of infidels.
There is a monumental difference between raping and killing non-believers and executing judgement on a follower who knew the rule. The difference between Islam and all other ideologies is that Islam is mostly focused on carrying out punishment on Kafirs, while Jewish tradition (along with Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, and western secular) is mostly focused on passing judgement on those who belong to the tribe or group. When the pope says that you can't use condoms, it doesn't apply to us non-catholics. We will not be punished for wearing condoms (though it seems more than a few priests weren't either, but that's another topic). If a young woman in England is a kafir, she's fair game for rape jihad. Bill Maher gets this. Aayan Hirsi Ali gets this. Sam Harris gets this. Pat Condell gets this. Christopher Hitchens got this. Etc. Why can't you?
There is a monumental difference between raping and killing non-believers and executing judgement on a follower who knew the rule. The difference between Islam and all other ideologies is that Islam is mostly focused on carrying out punishment on Kafirs, while Jewish tradition (along with Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, and western secular) is mostly focused on passing judgement on those who belong to the tribe or group. When the pope says that you can't use condoms, it doesn't apply to us non-catholics. We will not be punished for wearing condoms (though it seems more than a few priests weren't either, but that's another topic). If a young woman in England is a kafir, she's fair game for rape jihad. Bill Maher gets this. Aayan Hirsi Ali gets this. Sam Harris gets this. Pat Condell gets this. Christopher Hitchens got this. Etc. Why can't you?
As an example:
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. Purge the evil person from among you. -- 1 Corinthians 5
Thank you. That's a good example that highlights the difference that Bill Maher was talking about. The Qu'ran equivalent deals with unbelievers instead of believers, and deal much harsher. Plus, this is time and place, whereas the Islamic dealings with Kafirs is for all time.
Islamist police in Saudi Arabia have stormed a Christian prayer meeting and arrested its entire congregation, including women and children, and confiscated their bibles, it has been reported.
The raid was the latest incident of a swingeing crackdown on religious minorities in Saudi Arabia by the country's hard-line Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
The flag of the Khilafa (Caliphate) terrorist movement. The Khilafa seeks to infiltrate and spread all over the world and reestablish the Caliphate. Infiltration takes place via mass immigration and rapid population growth. The movement then use gradual means to indoctrinate society from within: propaganda is brought to schools, lawfare used to quiet critics, infiltration used through jobs in all levels of government and thereafter little by little policies and laws are changed to provide easier continued mass immigration and “special rights” for Muslims. Once the population is large enough, the terrorism begins: either you convert and bend to Islam, or you are killed.
Bill Maher supports Israel. Islam is a grotesque religion, but it's a far bigger threat to us because of the criminal state of Israel and its actions. Plus he's annoying and not funny either. I can't stand him.
Bill Maher supports Israel. Islam is a grotesque religion, but it's a far bigger threat to us because of the criminal state of Israel and its actions. Plus he's annoying and not funny either. I can't stand him.
Yes. Maybe if we do everything they want us to do, they will leave us alone. They are a far bigger threat to us because we are not practicing sharia law too. Perhaps we should give that a try so that they might leave us alone?
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