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Old 09-13-2014, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Originally Posted by chuckmann View Post
Too bad our government can no longer speak directly and honestly to the American People.

The topic is gaining traction on talk radio, with expert physicians speaking out. Sad that the ideologue left denies the potential danger to us all.

Folks really need to read this SOURCE
Maybe liberals haven’t noticed yet, but it hasn’t taken all that long for the infective consequences of President Obama’s refusal to put Americans first to befall the most innocent among us. For starters, Ohio, California, and Kansas are just a few of the states already struggling to contain measles outbreaks.

Now, in addition to measles, more than 1,000 children in 10 states -- Missouri, Kansas, Illinois, Kentucky, Iowa, Colorado, Ohio, Oklahoma, North Carolina, and Georgia -- have suddenly become infected with a rare respiratory virus, not seen in the U.S. since the 1960s, called human Enterovirus EV-D68. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention claim that the rare strain is related to the same rhinovirus responsible for causing the common cold.
So how exactly were all these diverse geographical locations able to be struck by the same disease?

Time to grow up and learn the nature of infectious diseases and more importantly, what happens when carriers are introduced into a population without immune systems able to resist.

Hint: think Native Americans and smallpox.
When has the government ever spoken "directly and honestly" to the people?


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Old 09-13-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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It would help if the Obama Administration would disclose where those illegal immigrant children have been placed.

In any investigation of infectious diseases, the investigators try to locate patient zero, if they can. It is legitimate to question why these rare diseases have broken out in the numbers they have in several different states simultaneously.

Do you have a better theory than numbers of new residents showing up in the various schools, thus infecting the students already there?
First off, the enterovirus outbreak started in the summer, BEFORE school. I am not sure if you are aware of this, but people often take vacations and travel in the summer.

In other words, it could very well be a disease that started off with some family reunion.
 
Old 09-13-2014, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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First off, the enterovirus outbreak started in the summer, BEFORE school. I am not sure if you are aware of this, but people often take vacations and travel in the summer.

In other words, it could very well be a disease that started off with some family reunion.
This particular strain is rare, according to my reading. So how would it have occured more or less simultaneously in several different states as a result of your family reunion. Sorry, but that theory strains credibility.

From what I can find, the outbreak started in mid August. Around here school starts in mid August. Probably does in a lot of other places too.

SOURCE

Since mid-August 2014, around 82 people have been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to be infected with the dangerous Enterovirus D68, or EV-D68, in six different states.


From the CDC:

Q: How common are EV-D68 infections in the United States?

A: EV-D68 infections are thought to occur less commonly than infections with other enteroviruses. However, CDC does not know how many infections and deaths from EV-D68 occur each year in the United States. Healthcare professionals are not required to report this information to health departments. Also, CDC does not have a surveillance system that specifically collects information on EV-D68 infections. Any data that CDC receives about EV-D68 infections or outbreaks are voluntarily provided by labs to CDC’s National Enterovirus Surveillance System (NESS). This system collects limited data, focusing on circulating types of enteroviruses and parechoviruses.

Dont know dont know dont know

When investigating something like this, NO reasonable avenue should be ignored.

If you want to eliminate the illegal immigrant children as the source, the place to start is full disclosure of where they were placed. Why do you have a problem with that?
 
Old 09-13-2014, 06:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by wrench409 View Post
Why that's just silly to think that allowing thousands upon thousands of multi disease infected illegal immigrants into America and disperse them into the general population would cause illness and disease.

This is a racist article aimed directly at the president clear and simple.

Achoo! Excuse me.....sniff
No you refuse to face facts that the President refuses to do his constitutional duty and these illegal immigrants do not care about American law.

When your city turns into a Ghetto, Your children are threaten in school by Immigrant gangs, and your wages go down because these Illegal Immigrants refuse to pay taxes and obtain a business lic. and insurance.
 
Old 09-13-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckmann View Post
Too bad our government can no longer speak directly and honestly to the American People.

The topic is gaining traction on talk radio, with expert physicians speaking out. Sad that the ideologue left denies the potential danger to us all.

Folks really need to read this SOURCE
Maybe liberals haven’t noticed yet, but it hasn’t taken all that long for the infective consequences of President Obama’s refusal to put Americans first to befall the most innocent among us. For starters, Ohio, California, and Kansas are just a few of the states already struggling to contain measles outbreaks.

Now, in addition to measles, more than 1,000 children in 10 states -- Missouri, Kansas, Illinois, Kentucky, Iowa, Colorado, Ohio, Oklahoma, North Carolina, and Georgia -- have suddenly become infected with a rare respiratory virus, not seen in the U.S. since the 1960s, called human Enterovirus EV-D68. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention claim that the rare strain is related to the same rhinovirus responsible for causing the common cold.
So how exactly were all these diverse geographical locations able to be struck by the same disease?

Time to grow up and learn the nature of infectious diseases and more importantly, what happens when carriers are introduced into a population without immune systems able to resist.

Hint: think Native Americans and smallpox.
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ View Post
No you refuse to face facts that the President refuses to do his constitutional duty and these illegal immigrants do not care about American law.

When your city turns into a Ghetto, Your children are threaten in school by Immigrant gangs, and your wages go down because these Illegal Immigrants refuse to pay taxes and obtain a business lic. and insurance.
Why does no one blame the previous administration, or the one before that, and so on. I wish Obummer and the congress did his job when it comes to securing our border, and I also wish the political party that did the most talking years ago, did something about it as well. They just keep passing the buck, so will the next administration, nobody has the balls to do what's right.
 
Old 09-13-2014, 07:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chuckmann View Post
This particular strain is rare, according to my reading. So how would it have occured more or less simultaneously in several different states as a result of your family reunion. Sorry, but that theory strains credibility.

From what I can find, the outbreak started in mid August. Around here school starts in mid August. Probably does in a lot of other places too.

SOURCE

Since mid-August 2014, around 82 people have been confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to be infected with the dangerous Enterovirus D68, or EV-D68, in six different states.


From the CDC:

Q: How common are EV-D68 infections in the United States?

A: EV-D68 infections are thought to occur less commonly than infections with other enteroviruses. However, CDC does not know how many infections and deaths from EV-D68 occur each year in the United States. Healthcare professionals are not required to report this information to health departments. Also, CDC does not have a surveillance system that specifically collects information on EV-D68 infections. Any data that CDC receives about EV-D68 infections or outbreaks are voluntarily provided by labs to CDC’s National Enterovirus Surveillance System (NESS). This system collects limited data, focusing on circulating types of enteroviruses and parechoviruses.

Dont know dont know dont know

When investigating something like this, NO reasonable avenue should be ignored.

If you want to eliminate the illegal immigrant children as the source, the place to start is full disclosure of where they were placed. Why do you have a problem with that?
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/831563


Information suggests that the outbreak could have started BEFORE the start of school in the middle of August:

Quote:
On August 19, 2014, CDC was notified by Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Missouri, of an increase (relative to the same period in previous years) in patients examined and hospitalized with severe respiratory illness, including some admitted to the pediatric intensive care unit. An increase also was noted in detections of rhinovirus/enterovirus by a multiplex polymerase chain reaction assay in nasopharyngeal specimens obtained during August 5–19.
Also, the virus strain did not just show up this year like Columbus in showing up into the New World.

Quote:
Since the original isolation of EV-D68 in California in 1962,[2] EV-D68 has been reported rarely in the United States; the National Enterovirus Surveillance System received 79 EV-D68 reports during 2009–2013. Small clusters of EV-D68 associated with respiratory illness were reported in the United States during 2009–2010.

This shows that the strain infact shows up from time to time, and it is there for entirely probable for citizen to be the source of the disease.
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