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Bush signed McCain/Feingold while acknowledging it was unconstitutional. It was unconstitutional but did the "right" condemn Bush for that? What should be the results of a president signing something he knew was unconstitutional?
Bush argued his entire presidency that he could simply ignore the due process rights of American citizens. How does that not cross the line?
Obama has simply built upon the things Bush started. Where was the honor and integrity when Bush was doing this?
Spot on that Obama is Bush's 3rd and 4th terms. However, to be fair on the McCain-Feingold matter, he said he had "reservations" and wasn't sure all of it would survive the Supreme Court -- ALL of it did survive the Supreme Court. It is ultimately the Supreme Courts job to determine this.
The reason we do not live in a dark, social darwinian, rundown, third world, toxic, dickensian society is because of progressives like TR and FDR. But for leadership like TR, corporate monopolies would have remained rampant, sweat shops, wealth inequality, and environmental degradation would have remained the norm, and social mobility nonexistent.
Many Conservatives are always trying to push our way back to those late 19th century days. I believe most of them do not realize or even care to realize, that their ancestors benefited by progressive policies. Those early 20th century immigrants lived in conditions of appalling conditions, and progressive policies improved those conditions, and set the stage for the creation of the middle class.
So that today you have a bunch of middle class people whose ancestors most likely were the unwashed masses and who were distained by the upper classes of the turn of the century elites, can now sit on there arses, in their middle class homes, with spare time to write on Internet forums on how they despise progressive policies. Policies if they were never enacted they would most likely be living in hovels today.
Well that's the vibe your party gives off.... stuck in the past.
if the new "future" is the current administrations goals and things like welfare = stimulus, and increasing debt makes us richer, I'll keep the past thank you...
Spot on that Obama is Bush's 3rd and 4th terms. However, to be fair on the McCain-Feingold matter, he said he had "reservations" and wasn't sure all of it would survive the Supreme Court -- ALL of it did survive the Supreme Court. It is ultimately the Supreme Courts job to determine this.
He said more than he had "reservations".
Certain provisions present serious constitutional concerns. In particular, H.R. 2356 goes farther than I originally proposed by preventing all individuals, not just unions and corporations, from making donations to political parties in connection with Federal elections. I believe individual freedom to participate in elections should be expanded, not diminished; and when individual freedoms are restricted, questions arise under the First Amendment. I also have reservations about the constitutionality of the broad ban on issue advertising, which restrains the speech of a wide variety of groups on issues of public import in the months closest to an election. I expect that the courts will resolve these legitimate legal questions as appropriate under the law.
Basically he said he knew at the very least aspects of the law was unconstitutional. So again, what should be the result of a president that admits he is signing what he knows is a bill that tramples the constitutional rights of individuals?
Just to continue.
As a policy matter, I would have preferred a bill that included a provision to protect union members and shareholders from involuntary political activities undertaken by their leadership.
How many (rightly) condemn the (D)'s for pushing laws like the current equal pay laws by noting it's already illegal to pay a woman less than a man? There were already laws that protected union members from the political spending of unions. People were already permitted to request the portion of the dues used for political activities be refunded to them.
Is it really the governments place to tell a corporation how they can spend their money? Is this what the "right" stands for? Where was the condemnation?
The reason we do not live in a dark, social darwinian, rundown, third world, toxic, dickensian society is because of progressives like TR and FDR. But for leadership like TR, corporate monopolies would have remained rampant, sweat shops, wealth inequality, and environmental degradation would have remained the norm, and social mobility nonexistent.
Many Conservatives are always trying to push our way back to those late 19th century days. I believe most of them do not realize or even care to realize, that their ancestors benefited by progressive policies. Those early 20th century immigrants lived in conditions of appalling conditions, and progressive policies improved those conditions, and set the stage for the creation of the middle class.
So that today you have a bunch of middle class people whose ancestors most likely were the unwashed masses and who were distained by the upper classes of the turn of the century elites, can now sit on there arses, in their middle class homes, with spare time to write on Internet forums on how they despise progressive policies. Policies if they were never enacted they would most likely be living in hovels today.
if the new "future" is the current administrations goals and things like welfare = stimulus, and increasing debt makes us richer, I'll keep the past thank you...
The US has been in debt every year but one- 1835. This debt does not go poof at the end of a president's term. Every president inherits debt, adds to it and passes it on.
Can you imagine if there had been an internet/social media and 24/7 for profit cable news entertainment, all along.
No doubt aggravated by his huge caffeine intake.
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