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Old 09-19-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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Wow, I went from agreeing with you to thinking your notions are half baked. To put Obama in the same grouping as TR, FDR, JFK, and Clinton is beyond the pale.
I am not even sure you should have included Clinton because while he did some good things, he was not in the same league as the others you mentioned. Thus you mentioning Obama in this group is hard to imagine.

All the others were leaders with experience and pragmatism who could push against resistance, but also compromise when it made sense. That is what helped to make Reagan & Clinton in modern times as effective as they were with the opposition party in control of Congress.
Obama is a pathetic person to compare to any of the aforementioned leaders.

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Am not saying Obama is in any sort of league, but merely a POTUS building upon what was begun by TR and FDR and expanded by some subsequent holders of that office such as JFK.

Obama was basically a political naïf when he came into the WH and it showed. While both TR, FDR and even JFK had spent time learning the ropes so to speak by working in, around and up the political (machine) ladder.

Like it or not Obama has to get a mention because again the man regardless of if you agree with his policies did manage to make government work where it hadn't before. It was TR IIRC who first proposed a type of universal health scheme. While Obamacare isn't exactly what many progressives and democrats had in mind they seem happy enough to take what they got.

Again like it or not gay rights have become the "new" civil rights of this era. Since Obama had his "Damascus conversion" and evolved to the point he wont' shut up on the subject the needle has moved
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:47 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Let's hear who you think was a "Good" conservative President!!!!!!
No problem. Ronald Wilson Reagan.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Fascism and communism are mutually exclusive. You've coined a silly, nonsense term.
ROFL! Tell that to the citizens of the former USSR, or the citizens of Cuba.
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Old 09-19-2014, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Taxes are nothing new.... They've been around for thousands of years.... Get over it.

Modern progressives seek to give everyone an equal chance, not make everyone equal. Big difference....

Horse sh*t!

When the only proof you need of wide spread discrimination is an under/over representation of certain groups, "equal opportunity" just became meaningless.

Liberals seek to make some more equal than others.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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Total aside here but.....

While watching this series one thing keeps standing out at one; what is up with all these persons with bad teeth! *LOL* I mean were there no dentists? Orthodontists? Periodontists? Doesn't look as if even toothpaste (or then still powder) and dental floss was much in evidence either. *LOL*

Can understand the "lower orders" but the Roosevelt family wasn't exactly poor. For all the graft money swirling around NYC/NYS Al Smith certainly didn't seem to splurge on dental care either.

Am just saying! *LOL*
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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Any other Progs feel the same way?
My sympathies!
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:47 PM
 
Location: CO
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Total aside here but.....

While watching this series one thing keeps standing out at one; what is up with all these persons with bad teeth! *LOL* I mean were there no dentists? Orthodontists? Periodontists? Doesn't look as if even toothpaste (or then still powder) and dental floss was much in evidence either. *LOL*

Can understand the "lower orders" but the Roosevelt family wasn't exactly poor. For all the graft money swirling around NYC/NYS Al Smith certainly didn't seem to splurge on dental care either.

Am just saying! *LOL*
So true, Bugsy! Pretty convinced my wife is feigning interest to check everyone out. Well maybe for some of the Eleanor stuff too.
Step outta the room for a moment and hear, "Oh! Those teeth!"

1918 toothbrush ad

Not long before that, they would've used boar or horsehair.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:57 PM
 
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So true, Bugsy! Pretty convinced my wife is feigning interest to check everyone out. Well maybe for some of the Eleanor stuff too.
Step outta the room for a moment and hear, "Oh! Those teeth!"

1918 toothbrush ad

Not long before that, they would've used boar or horsehair.
Am watching it now, add Wendell Willkie to this list! *LOL* No wonder the man like so many others of the period is always photographed not smiling (with a closed mouth). Sort of makes those jokes about English teeth seem outright lies in comparison.

Of the lot FDR thus far seems to have the best teeth of the lot. Not exactly perfectly aligned but at least they are white! *LOL*
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Some interesting comparisons to present day, early on FDR didn't want to see any American lives wasted in European fields, did not want to see the US involved in the conflict and he had affairs and was not impeached, go figure.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Some interesting comparisons to present day, early on FDR didn't want to see any American lives wasted in European fields, did not want to see the US involved in the conflict and he had affairs and was not impeached, go figure.
FDR was not impeached because Congress was controlled by Democrats. Everyone knows Democrats are dishonorable criminals that will support any criminal activity by their own members. All one has to do is look at the Senate today - every Democrat is a dishonorable Obama shill. Just like every congressional Democrat was a dishonorable shill for FDR and his atrocities.

At least Republicans have enough honor and integrity to vote for the impeachment of one of their own members. Something that cannot be said about the dishonorable Democrat scum.
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