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And how about the people who don't contribute a dime. They can stay the hell off the roads I helped pay for.
I think the people who pay more than you do should have the right to kick you off their roads. After all, by your way of thinking, they deserve to use them more because they paid more for them than you did. It seems like you owe a lot of people a lot of money if you plan to use their roads. Same goes for every other kind of government service that you take advantage of every single day of your life.
You yourself have admitted you're a moocher--just like everyone else. I'm just taking your own argument to it's natural conclusion.
If you would prefer a public option, you're more liberal than most of Congress.
The progressive wing of the Democratic party did in fact agitate for a public option. Contrary to what Faux News says, the progressives don't run the Democratic party. I think most liberals would want a public option, but recognize that it's not politically feasible.
And with the ban on preexisting condition underwriting and catastrophe limits, the "insured in name only" problem is less than it was pre-ACA.
I don't believe in passing bad bills.
I make no pretense that I am for a single payer health care system. Keeping insurance companies entangled more than ever with the government, just prolongs the agony. We have probably the most pathetic health care payment system in the civilized world.
I think the people who pay more than you do should have the right to kick you off their roads.
You yourself have admitted you're a moocher--just like everyone else. I'm just taking your own argument to it's natural conclusion.
I see you didn't actually answer the question. As usual.
Yet you want to ignore the fact that some people, people on the dole don't contribute a dime toward those roads and bridges, then you want to use roads and bridges in a debate.
they don't pay federal taxes.. get the hell off the roads the rest of us helped pay for. Stop being a drag on everyone else.
How would that work for things like...oh, I don't know...the military? If you didn't pay a toll, you're not protected from terrorists?
If you don't pay a toll your house burns down and your grocery store sells you poison?
The OP's complaint seems to be that those on the cheapest premium plans (Bronze plans) have high deductibles (that is the way health insurance has always worked), and that "we have nothing different than we had before other than for catastrophic care." Yes, catastrophic care is now available with no cut off limits and no denial for pre-existing conditions. Thanks Obama.
The OP was pretty clear. He's saying that those who cannot pay the $1200 deductible will end up in the same boat as before--going to the ER for their basic health care, from which they will get a bill that will be tossed in the trash, and we're back to square 1.
Yet you want to ignore the fact that some people, people on the dole don't contribute a dime toward those roads and bridges, then you want to use roads and bridges in a debate.
they don't pay federal taxes.. get the hell off the roads the rest of us helped pay for. Stop being a drag on everyone else.
Everyone pays taxes--unless you have found some magical place where you can purchase things without paying a tax on them.
Where is it written that only people who pay FEDERAL taxes have value to society, and therefore are worthy of using roads and other things that their state and local taxes help to pay for? What is the difference between making enough to pay more in federal taxes every year and paying local state and city taxes every day? They still pay taxes, according to their ability to pay. What of the taxes they pay? That doesn't count?
If you say it's not enough, well, guess what? That's what people who pay more than you can say about you. Which makes you absolutely no different than those you denigrate. In short, it makes you a moocher.
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