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Yes, DC Ridge among others is saying the Governor of Maine can't possibly quarantine nurse look at me. Maine state law says he can - although he hasn't yet and I don't think he will.
I didn't say that. I said that the passage of Maine law that you posted requires a Extreme Public Health Emergency to be declared before the provisions kick in. That's what the passage says. I've asked you repeatedly whether the State of Maine has declared such an emergency. You won't answer, so I guess you don't like the question.
Yes, any state has the power to quarantine someone. They have to follow the steps that their laws lay out to do so. And in most states, the steps culminate in the state asking a judge to issue a court order that will designate who is to be quarantined, under what conditions, for how long, and why. Then the persons who are being detained, because quarantine is a form of detention, have the right to challenge the state's order. They can challenge the entire order or portions thereof. And because the nature of a quarantine is that it is an emergency, the challenge has to be promptly addressed by the courts.
Politics play a multi-level role in all of this. Politics to soothe public fears is the drive behind quarantines. But in Maine, the governor has election issues to consider as well. It wouldn't look good if he pursued a quarantine that was set aside by the courts the day before voters go to the polls. It's not good if the governor loses votes of people who are sympathetic to Nurse Wilcox. It's not good if people perceive the governor as not doing enough to protect the people of Maine from Ebola. It's a hot potato.
And I'm pretty sure Governor Christie recognized that political reality when he tossed it into Maine.
I didn't say that. I said that the passage of Maine law that you posted requires a Extreme Public Health Emergency to be declared before the provisions kick in. That's what the passage says. I've asked you repeatedly whether the State of Maine has declared such an emergency. You won't answer, so I guess you don't like the question.
Yes, any state has the power to quarantine someone. They have to follow the steps that their laws lay out to do so. And in most states, the steps culminate in the state asking a judge to issue a court order that will designate who is to be quarantined, under what conditions, for how long, and why. Then the persons who are being detained, because quarantine is a form of detention, have the right to challenge the state's order. They can challenge the entire order or portions thereof. And because the nature of a quarantine is that it is an emergency, the challenge has to be promptly addressed by the courts.
Politics play a multi-level role in all of this. Politics to soothe public fears is the drive behind quarantines. But in Maine, the governor has election issues to consider as well. It wouldn't look good if he pursued a quarantine that was set aside by the courts the day before voters go to the polls. It's not good if the governor loses votes of people who are sympathetic to Nurse Wilcox. It's not good if people perceive the governor as not doing enough to protect the people of Maine from Ebola. It's a hot potato.
And I'm pretty sure Governor Christie recognized that political reality when he tossed it into Maine.
Of note, polls have indicated Maine residents are strongly in support of a quarantine for Hickox.
That was per CNN that she did reject it. Let me find a print article that details it. I thought it was an overly generous compromise and one that is the same as the guidelines offered by CDC. She would have lost nothing at all except political points if she agreed - that is if she really is truthful that she is fighting this because she only wants to follow CDC guidelines.
Not necessary. I understand that she rejected making a deal over what she considers her inviolable rights. I may be reading in too much, but she could very well comply with CDC guidelines without formal agreement. She sounds like a libertarian - I will obey the law though I have no obligation to!
Of note, polls have indicated Maine residents are strongly in support of a quarantine for Hickox.
See, that's not of note to me. I kinda agree with our Founding Fathers. I don't trust mobs to make decisions that affect individual lives. I think due process is one of the most important safeguards to freedom in this country. So public opinion that is cited as an excuse to shortchange due process means little to me.
Not necessary. I understand that she rejected making a deal over what she considers her inviolable rights. I may be reading in too much, but she could very well comply with CDC guidelines without formal agreement. She sounds like a libertarian - I will obey the law though I have no obligation to!
She's not winning a lot of friends, especially in her home state, that's for sure. I think her 15 minutes of fame will ultimately come back to bite her when she's no longer a media darling but people remember her actions. Employers, for example, would likely pass on her simply to not encourage any issues.
See, that's not of note to me. I kinda agree with our Founding Fathers. I don't trust mobs to make decisions that affect individual lives. I think due process is one of the most important safeguards to freedom in this country. So public opinion that is cited as an excuse to shortchange due process means little to me.
You were talking about politics and I simply offered that information as an addendum to your point.
She's not winning a lot of friends, especially in her home state, that's for sure. I think her 15 minutes of fame will ultimately come back to bite her when she's no longer a media darling but people remember her actions. Employers, for example, would likely pass on her simply to not encourage any issues.
IDK, the nurses on the forum seem to be in her corner. I think medical people in general consider this a politicization of their turf. She may well be a hero to them. If she does come down with Ebola though, her cause is dead, dead, and then dead some more.
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