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Old 10-19-2014, 06:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A medical procedure, that once Roe v. Wade said, the Federal Government had no power to ban or regulate it, has been under very little regulation and oversight, when compare to other medical fields.

Until recently in Texas, you didn't even need admitting privileges at the local hospital, in the case of major complications. Hemorrhaging is common after an abortion. Emergency Rooms were getting the patient.

 
Old 10-19-2014, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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1. there is regulation on abortions, and abortion providers.

2. Hemorrhaging after abortion is not common, and occurs in only 1% of abortions.

3. The requirement for admitting privileges is ridiculous. The hospital is not going to turn away the patient.

There are several different types of outpatient surgery that do not require admitting privileges. Oral surgeons do not require admitting privileges. Even some plastic surgeons do not require admitting privileges. If safety were the real goal, then any and all medical professionals would be required to have admitting privileges. This law was for no other purpose than trying to eliminate legal abortions.
 
Old 10-19-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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A medical procedure, that once Roe v. Wade said, the Federal Government had no power to ban or regulate it, has been under very little regulation and oversight, when compare to other medical fields.

Until recently in Texas, you didn't even need admitting privileges at the local hospital, in the case of major complications. Hemorrhaging is common after an abortion. Emergency Rooms were getting the patient.
Even MORE regulation wanted by the right wing? How about regulating the dumping of chemicals and toxins by big extraction companies if you want a cause to regulate and leave people alone ?
 
Old 10-19-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Exactly!


The Progressives want to regulate everything else, but when it comes to eugenics, the only regulation is to make it accessible at the 7-11.
 
Old 10-19-2014, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Abortion is regulated, sounds like this is a thread fail.
 
Old 10-19-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
A medical procedure, that once Roe v. Wade said, the Federal Government had no power to ban or regulate it, has been under very little regulation and oversight, when compare to other medical fields.

Until recently in Texas, you didn't even need admitting privileges at the local hospital, in the case of major complications. Hemorrhaging is common after an abortion. Emergency Rooms were getting the patient.
It is regulated. You know this is not what RvW said. I am pro-life but are you so in need of attention that you have to start a thread that you know is full of inaccuracies.

You do those of us who are pro-life but prefer to stick to factual arguments no favors.
 
Old 10-19-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Abortion advocates don't care about women or health, they just care about money and their political agenda. We just had an abortion doctor lose his license because his patients kept bleeding half to death after he performed late term abortions on them. Also, every surgical practice in the state needs to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital. I don't see why abortions are different.
 
Old 10-19-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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No, not all surgical practice in the state needs to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital, and many kinds of outpatient surgery in many different fields are performed daily without such restrictions.

The intent of these laws is entirely to reduce the availability of legal abortions. And as every study ever shows, reducing the availability of legal abortions increases the occurrence of illegal abortions. And that increases the risk to womens health overall. So the supposed legal justification for these laws is a lie.

Women will get abortions. Period. You cannot legislate that away. Period.

Make it harder for women to get abortions and they just go outside the system. It has ever been so, and it will ever be thus.

An acorn is not an oak tree. An egg is not a chicken. And a zygote is not a person. Only one of these is not clear to a lot of people. If you are one of these people, then I suggest you don't have an abortion. But leave other women alone to make their own choices. OK?

Simple enough, right?
 
Old 10-19-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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No, not all surgical practice in the state needs to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital, and many kinds of outpatient surgery in many different fields are performed daily without such restrictions.

The intent of these laws is entirely to reduce the availability of legal abortions. And as every study ever shows, reducing the availability of legal abortions increases the occurrence of illegal abortions. And that increases the risk to womens health overall. So the supposed legal justification for these laws is a lie.

Women will get abortions. Period. You cannot legislate that away. Period.

Make it harder for women to get abortions and they just go outside the system. It has ever been so, and it will ever be thus.

An acorn is not an oak tree. An egg is not a chicken. And a zygote is not a person.
Zygote's are not what is aborted. A Zygote is what is created in the first roughly 4 days after fertilization. Now granted many are against the interference at this point but if this was the extent of abortion the argument would not be what it is.

The OP isn't the only one wanting to be misleading.
 
Old 10-19-2014, 09:40 AM
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The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA)
Public and private hospitals alike are prohibited by law from denying a patient care in an emergency. The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA) passed by Congress in 1986 explicitly forbids the denial of care to indigent or uninsured patients based on a lack of ability to pay. It also prohibits unnecessary transfers while care is being administered and prohibits the suspension of care once it is initiated, provisions that prevent dumping patients who cannot pay on other hospitals. The treatment of indigent and uninsured patients is a huge financial drain upon the health system, especially in areas where no public hospitals are available.

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