How Red or Blue is Your State? (legal, stats, economy)

[Votre_Chef]

Originally Posted by Glitch

All the blue areas are concentrated in the cities. Cities foster dependency, which naturally spawns entitlement-minded Democrats. The vast majority of the country, not located in the major metropolitan areas, are red areas. Those who live in the country require a level of independence not found in cities, which naturally spawns liberty-minded Republicans.

lol

You never disappoint.

America's agricultural system is absolutely dependent upon government aid. Our government props up our agricultural sector. One of the most contentious issues in negotiating new trade agreements is the US, Canada and Western Europe's subsidies for agriculture which prevent developing countries (which can grow cash crops and food cheaper than we can) from cracking open our markets.

At the same time our cities are the engines of our economy. They are where most of the nation's GDP is generated. Detroit failing? Maybe, but it's still responsible for more than half of Michigan's annual GDP. NY City alone has a larger GDP than Texas, twice the size of Florida's, more than three times the size of Georgia's, 15 times larger than Mississippi's.

You were right about the dependency, you just got it backwards.

[Haakon]

WA is a red state with a DEEP DARK blue city that skews the entire state when voting for politicians. When voting directly on initiatives the greed of the city dwellers comes out as they routinely vote against raising taxes than their elected officials push for.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by wutitiz

The reality is that WA politics defy normal red-blue categories. Voters often pass conservative ballot measures and reject liberal ones. In recent years, voters have overturned a hefty car tab tax, rejected a state income tax, and rejected a gun control package that supporters called "modest" by 71-29.

The state is pro-gun, yet we have two Dem US Senators who are NRA F's...go figure. It has gotten almost impossible for an R to win a statewide race. Part of that is an inherent 'rich get richer' phenomenon. When a party becomes a weak minority, people tend to lose interest, give up, and the party has no qualified people to climb from lower to higher office.

Seattle, which is about ten percent of state pop. is so far to the left that we now have a popular city councilwoman who openly calls herself 'Marxist.' It's a strange mix here. I think we also have a very high quotient of low-info voters. A few years ago a Republican candidate for gov decided to scrap the label 'Republican' for 'GOP.' This idea turned out to be very effective.

As I said, Washington and Oregon are very much Liberal-Libertarian states.

[armory]

S#!thole Maryland...nuff said.

[bluesjuke]

In Texas we are painting the town red.

Give up Obama, you have no chance in your plan here.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by bluesjuke

In Texas we are painting the town red.

Give up Obama, you have no chance in your plan here.

Who cares, a Republican candidate can't win the presidency with just Texas.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by wutitiz

WA is largely red outside of the Seattle-Tacoma area. IIRC when Republican Sen. Slade Gorton lost in 2000, he won something like 34 of 39 counties, but he lost the race. Of course the Seattle area has most of the population.

But the deciding factor in making WA the bluest state might be just how far to the left Seattleites are. Jim McDermott (D, WA) is one of the furthest left house members, and routinely wins re-election by 70-80 percent. In Seattle, the Democrats are actually the right-wing party. The socialists and greens are the left side of the aisle.

There is still a kind of strange libertarian (for lack of a better term) streak in WA. An attempt to enact a state income tax in 2010 went down resoundingly (65-35 IIRC) in 2010.

you are either on the left or right side of the political spectrum( if using that terminology), so the Dems would still be the left wing party, the Socialist and greens would just be the rather left ones.

And that being said, do the Socialist of Greens actually hold any seats in the state legislature ???

The bluest states are Hawaii, Vermont(on a local level)

The reddest are Wyoming and Utah

But there are varying degrees as to what blue and red are.


A Democrat in Hawaii is not the same as on in Vermont

and a Republican in Wyoming isnt the same as one in Utah.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Haakon

WA is a red state with a DEEP DARK blue city that skews the entire state when voting for politicians. When voting directly on initiatives the greed of the city dwellers comes out as they routinely vote against raising taxes than their elected officials push for.

: smack:

for the love of god.... Land area =/= votes.

The majority of people in Washington vote blue, so there for, it is not a red state. that simple.

it doesnt matter if they live within 30 miles of Seattle, they still make up the majority of the state population.

[GABESTA535]

If Republicans are so "liberty-minded" why do they oppose gay marriage and a woman's right to choose?

[parfleche]

Originally Posted by GABESTA535

If Republicans are so "liberty-minded" why do they oppose gay marriage and a woman's right to choose?

They just don't want to pay for it. Go kill your children on your own dime.